<p>Hi I am from Denmark and I am looking for a college to go to in the States. I used to live in Texas and I have applied to Southwestern University in Georgetown. I would like to apply somewhere else, just to make sure that I get in, in case something goes wrong. </p>
<p>I have a pretty good SAT score, 1140 (610 english and 530 in math)</p>
<p>I have a 4.0 average from Denmark, which is a big deal in Denmark, because highschools are generally a bit tougher than those one might find in most places in the States.
I have no problem paying for college and I have a huge list of extracuricular activities including student board and charity council. </p>
<p>But I have not taken the SAT II's, and I am wondering if there are any good schools that do not require it, or are willing to waive it, for international students.</p>
<p>The schools I have looked at are (the all seem to require the SAT II):
Dartmouth
UC Berkeley
Rice</p>
<p>So it is pretty a pretty broad spectrum.
Does anyone know a list of selective schools that do not require it?</p>
<p>High enough for what? That was not the question? I just wanted to know what schools did not require SAT II's.
And in my defence, it's not easy taking a math test, that is multiple choice in a language other than your mother tongue. Its not like I am going to study math either. I do know that the 530 is pretty lousy..</p>
<p>1] SAT scores are more important than SAT II scores.
2] If a highly competative college says that SAT II tests are RECOMMENDED, but not REQUIRED [like Stanford for instance] you should take them if at all possible if you want your application to be seriously considered, since most others applicants WILL have taken them.</p>
<p>It is going to be fairly difficult for you to end up in Dartmouth Berkeley or Rice with those scores. </p>
<p>While I understand the difficulty in taking the test in a non native language, there are tons of international applicants that speak both their language AND English fluently. In fact, the 610 basically says you can speak the language, and certainly do it well enough for it to not be the limiting factor in math.</p>
<p>Is your school known for sending its students to american colleges? Have kids from your school with similar grades/sats gotten into similar schools? (thats the best way to tell where you and your 4.0 stand).
-I agree that school MAY be harder in Denmark, but did you take the most challenging classes (this affects admissions as well as gpa and sat).</p>
<p>Additionally, you may want to look at smaller LACs that would like to add diversity. A school like Berkeley has its pick of the best students in the world- smaller LACs have equally strong american applicants in respect to the large universities, but lack comprable strength in the international pool.</p>
<p>Sorry if I didnt answer your original question, but hopefully you'll end up finding the right school for you.</p>
<p>This information is very easy to find on each college's website. Use the CC list of colleges as a guide, and visit each college website's admissions link. They will show statistics for mid range SAT and ACT scores, and also show which tests they require. Good luck!</p>
<p>No my school is not at all known for sending students to us schools.
It is a private school known for having a lot of famous authors go there. Another member of the Alumni is Queen Margereth of Denmark.
I took the hardest classes possible, and basically have A's in all classes other than physics math and chemistry (B+, B+ and B).
My problem with the math part was probably more because I did not know the terms and we where in a completely different place in math compared to what was on the SAT.
The freshman year of college is translated directly into the senior year of highschool in Denmark if you compare difficulty.
I doubt that many americans would be able to quote, kant, hegel, and goethe along with more modern authors like Kafka, Brecht, Frisch and Grass in original their original language.
I am Bi-lingual and have a special diploma only offered at my school in Denmark, in German as well as Danish. And have taken the hardest classes possible, without having any "easy electives".
I was also head of the charity council as well as participating in event arranging, the caf</p>
<p>Your SAT score is seriously dreadfully low for the schools that you are aiming for. It seems that your GPA is solid and have above average accomplishments.
For anyone to gain admittance to a top school, one one need solid scores (GPA + SAT/ACT) OR extremely significant awards (National, international, etc). Lets face it, you are probably a top student in Denmark, but your SAT score just does not cut it.
Rice, UCB, and Dartmouth are three very different school btw. My suggestion is to aim lower and perhaps consider some Liberal Arts Colleges (especially Middlebury College, it is a top school and does not require the SAT I or II)</p>
<p>You need to look at the University of Chicago, which is considered comparable in the academic world to the colleges you are interested in. SAT scores are not as heavily weighted there in admissions decisions as with other top colleges/ U's.</p>
<p>Sorry, but your math excuses wont work. If you got a 610 reading you cant say that the 530 math was because english isn't your native language. Also, even if you dont want to major in a math or physical science, a fairly good college isnt going to want to see low math scores. And you want to apply to more schools just in case you dont get into Southwestern? Rice, Berkeley and especially Dartmouth are much more selective than Southwestern, so if you looking for a fall back school just incase you dont get into Southwestern, I would suggest aiming lower. Perhaps Taxas a&m or somthing.</p>
<p>Yeah well they are the only schools I know that are private but not exactly Harvard, Princeton, Yale or Columbia.
Though it might be Ivy league, in my opinion it does not have the reputation of the others. Those being world wide renown, and well quite frankly Dartmouth is not exactly a household name in Europe, like the others.
But still that comment is completely irrelovent to the topic to my questions, please if you are going to comment be constructive. It is always easier to try and tear something down than to buil something up.</p>
<p>Alright, I have checked out some profiles of people applying to yale etc. I understand that top American schools require extremely high standardized test scores and that they will not be for me... :(
I feel like the man from the country side trying to reach the court or law in Kafka's short story. A bit alone and helpless.
But I have been trying for so long, and I am hoping that something might work out. My interview with southwestern is tomorrow.</p>
<p>Oh and one thing I do not understand is, that I actually know a couple of people that went to harvard. 3 to be exact, and I would not call any of them intellectuals by any standard. How is this possible? Their parents are very wealthy, and know the dean well. Would that be enough to bring me into the Ivy league if I was born in to those surroundings?</p>
<p>You may want to look at schools like Bowdoin or Reed that don't require SAT scores but are still very selective. Or, try retaking the SATs. SAT doesn't equal overall knowledge in most cases, it is a sort of game. Some students who are very bright do not achieve highly on it while others do very well who score low in classes. It is very important in some colleges, but some colleges have made it optional to allow high achieving students who do not score well on standardized tests to apply. You can look for the schools online. Good luck!</p>