<p>I've been searching this for awhile but I can't find what I specifically want. I want to know what the % of students from an Undergrad school get accepted to Med school.</p>
<p>For example, I visited Georgetown and they said that 80% will be accepted into med school.</p>
<p>Do any of you guys have a consolidated list of top schools and the percentage of their pre-med students go on to med school?</p>
<p>Those statistics don’t mean anything - definitely don’t make your choice based on numbers like that.</p>
<p>Carefully look at the wording you put that statement in: “80% will go to med school”. That’s likely not what the tourguide or whatever said. Going to Georgetown does not mean that you will automatically have an 80% chance of going to medical school. What they probably meant was 80% of the students from Georgetown who applied to medical school (after all the premed weeding) got in somewhere.</p>
<p>Icarus is right: those numbers are useless. Plus, they can be inflated – at my university pre-med advisers caution students not to apply to medical school unless they have 3.8+ gpa, 35+ mcat and a laundry list of ECs that would make any other applicant feel like an underachiever. (Thankfully I never visited with them to discuss my future plans.)</p>
<p>Yea I realize that there is weeding and that 80% will be accepted to AT LEAST ONE school, but I would still like to see at some rates at which schools send students to med school. This is not a major factor to me but I would just like to see them.</p>
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Did you not read schritzo’s post? Here it is again to reiterate:
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<p>Looking at these statistics is pretty meaningless, I’m not sure why you want to see them if you understand this. If you care that much, for whatever reason, you’d have better luck searching the websites of the specific schools you have in mind.</p>
<p>OP, to reiterate. Schrizto’s post is right on the money. Those stats are useless. They are easily inflated and essentially worthless. Students get in on their own merits, not their UG institution’s.</p>
<p>About the only thing that could be meaningful is the absolute number who go to medical school. Not the percent who apply that are accepted. Having a substantial number who go each year means that the premed advising system operates regularly. If med school is rare, then the premed system does not get used that much, and the advisors and back office may not function that well.</p>
<p>But the raw percent who are accepted is pretty meaningless.</p>
<p>If the college will show you a grid of acceptance results broken down by GPA and MCAT scores, then you can compare with the few other places that provide this detail.</p>
<p>More important may be a realistic projection of where you stand as a student at your college. If you are on the top end of entering students in GPA and standardized test scores, then you have a good chance of being one of those high GPA high MCAT students when you apply to med school. </p>
<p>If you are on the low end of your college on these measures, then you want to see how students on the low end of the distribution do when they apply. This can vary widely. The low end from a top college may still have pretty respectable grades and scores. The low end from a place with much less stringent admissions may have little chance of getting in med school.</p>
<p>All,</p>
<p>Totally agree with Afan’s viewpoint:</p>
<p>“More important may be a realistic projection of where you stand as a student at your college. If you are on the top end of entering students in GPA and standardized test scores, then you have a good chance of being one of those high GPA high MCAT students when you apply to med school.”</p>
<p>I have heard about the following statistics from a state school in my state:</p>
<p>Approximately 400 freshmen are aiming pre-med. By senior year, 150 students submit the application and only 75 students get in one medical school. Considering some of the freshmen may not reveal their intention, I would argue that the 400 is really like 800 with one or both eyes on medical school. Thus, in this case, the probability of success is about 10%. These kind of ratios will require some digging.</p>
<p>I went on a tour this weekend and a school claimed something close to a 100% med school admission rate </p>
<p><a href=“http://collegesofdistinction.com/college-profiles/CA-california/9-saint-marys-college-of-california[/url]”>http://collegesofdistinction.com/college-profiles/CA-california/9-saint-marys-college-of-california</a>
“Saint Mary’s graduates have an outstanding record of admission to graduate and professional schools—including a 100 percent acceptance rate into medical schools—and many alumni have found meaningful work in high technology, advanced research, and health and medicine.”</p>
<p>… hmmm</p>
<p>Weird, since Duke’s is “only” 85% …</p>
<p>“Acceptance to Graduate School: More than 95% acceptance rate to law and business schools; 85%
acceptance rate to medical school; more than 90% acceptance rate to dentistry, veterinary, and
pharmacy schools.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/pdf/Quick_Facts.pdf[/url]”>http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/pdf/Quick_Facts.pdf</a></p>
<p>ZOMG Shrinkrap does that mean that Saint Mary’s pre-med is 15% better than Duke?!?!?!11eleventybillion</p>
<p>Folks, it’s not about the made-up, tinkered-with stats. It’s about the school where you’ll flourish as a student and a person. That is the foundation for success when you apply to medical school.</p>
<p>I’m thinking it means one kid applied, and that one kid got in…</p>
<p>If I use Duke’s 85% as an example, 100 students applied and 85 students got in one medical school. However, I would not be surprised that the number of incoming freshmen aiming for medical school was really three times as high. Thus, it is really like 85 out of 300 or around 25%. </p>
<p>The message is that a student should measure his/her ability to chose a school. No one in the bottom half of the class (even in Duke) would have a good chance of getting into a medical school. In a lower tier school, one would have to be in the top 10% to have a decent chance. Of course, not all the best students in any school would choose to go to medical school. Still, if I have to pay for my son to go to Duke, I need to make sure that he is capable of reaching at least 75 percentile of the class. Please correct me if this is way off.</p>
<p>Dean Singer, Duke’s most recent (and most famous) premed advisor, once crunched the numbers herself. I don’t have them handy, but they indicated that more students eventually applied to medical school than were premeds coming in.</p>
<p>Of course, that relied upon their denoting themselves as premeds on Day 1, so that’s not a fully reliable estimate.</p>
<p>BDM,</p>
<p>How many students in Duke applied for medical school each year? How big is the average freshmen class for bio and chem?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Don’t know about class sizes. Posting in the Duke forum might turn something up. AAMC says 387 applicants in 2009.</p>
<p><a href=“http://aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table2-7-mwhite-web.pdf[/url]”>http://aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table2-7-mwhite-web.pdf</a></p>
<p>Disclaimer; Both parents are MD’s, so no need based aid, and neither of my kids seem interested in medical school. And they are as different as night and day or as St. Mary’s and Duke. … Son is as good a soccer player as daughter is a student.I think I know which is “worth” more!</p>
<p>bdm,</p>
<p>Thanks. I need to do some research.</p>
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<p>Not completely accurate. The merits of the UG institution definitely play a role in a student’s med school admission.</p>
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<p>There will always be exceptions. In the vast majority of cases, this is true. The UG institution only plays a role in the sense that students attending, say, Yale, had the merits to begin with. In other words, if the 20th percentile at Yale is equivalent to the 50th percentile at U-Mich, then it would make sense that while you have to be in the 70th percentile at U-Mich to get into med school, you only have to be in the 40th at Yale. The populations are different overall. However, a student in the 99th percentile of the population attending U-Mich would also be in the the 5% or so at Yale. For that student, the difference does not matter at all. Likewise, a student who would be in the 30th percentile at Yale but is above average at U-Mich (say, the 60th) is still going to fall short of the line to get into med school. The name wasn’t what got the student in. It was the student’s own achievement level.</p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I am intentionally over-simplifying this but the basic principle is illustrated here)</p>