<p>Plus, if they WERE concerned, don’t you think they wouldn’t have even attempted a flight in the winter? They obviously were pretty confident with their machine, as described in the end how they were proud of what they made and know that they will create a better one.</p>
<p>This was already addressed in the passage. They had to test the machine because winter was coming and they wouldn’t be able to test it anymore. It was their last chance.</p>
<p>I said pride because I just felt that there really was no reason to put the whole “our equipment was better/more accurate” spiel aside from making a statement that their equipment was a grade above that of the U.S.'s equipment. In the context of the passage being from their autobiography/interview or whatever, I just thought that he was being proud in their equipment.</p>
<p>Personally, the only two choices that made sense for me was reliant and proud, but then after looking at it again I ruled out reliant.</p>
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<p>I can definitely see why you guys chose concerned. However, from that part of the passage, I don’t see what the brothers have to be concerned about. I think you’re reading too much into it that the brothers would be concerned about a 3mph difference tearing up their airplane.</p>
<p>I put prideful because I saw this: The morning brought with it a 27 mph gale. Our instruments were much better than the governments’ and ours said 24 mph, but oh well, we’re going to have to go with the official reading which was 27 mph anyway.</p>
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<p>Yeah, pretty much why I chose prideful.</p>
<p>Btw, ashley and sukmabigdik, you are both reported.</p>
<p>@ Ashlllllley - Honestly…stop feeding the ■■■■■. The more you post crap about him the more he’ll respond. The two of you are posting irrelevant things in a thread for people wishing to discuss reading problems. If you want to dish it out with him, either go create your own thread or stop it. You’re not going to win against a ■■■■■, and even if you did…what then? It’s pointless.</p>
<p>Well, i’ve made the best argument I can. i debated between all three answer choices and chose concerned, nothing I can do now. I would argue with you more but why should I, the act is over. Now can we examine a different question. If i hear prideful is better one more time, I swear I will…</p>
<p>Ashllllley. So, is asphyxiation possible? It’s cheaper than a baseball bat.</p>
<p>And exactly my point with the ACT, why are you taking it so seriously. I’m sure anyone would agree from a legal standpoint that I have done nothing or stated anything that should provoke threats (possibly death) or barge into my privacy(IP Addresses). I encourage you both to re-consider what you have said. Because, both of you are liable, and not me =)…</p>
<p>The way I understand it, we’re not here to “debate” per se, but we’re going to try to see why/how we got some questions wrong so we’ll improve for the next ACTs.</p>
<p>Go take this argument elsewhere. Not here. other people are trying to get think about the act questions. Go beat each other up somewhere else. Have a ball.</p>
<p>Awh man, I read the question wrong? Dang that always happens T-T</p>
<p>Which question?</p>
<p>I think it’s funny that even after I found the exact passage from the test, there is still debate over the question. People who are supporters of the “concerned” answer, please quote the original passage in your explanation so that we can see where you’re coming from.</p>
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<li><p>“As soon as it was light we ran up our signal flag for help from the life saving station. Three men were off duty that day, and came pounding over to camp.”
Illustrates their worry…</p></li>
<li><p>“Nobody imagined we would attempt a flight in such weather, for it was not only blowing hard, but it was also very cold. But just that fact, coupled with the knowledge that winter and its gales would be on top of us almost any time now, made us decide not to postpone the attempt any longer.”</p>
<h2>Ergo, Orville is concerned that they won’t be able to take flight due to the greater measurements from the government. Orville is ultimately concerned that the government readings will prevent him from flying when his readings are more accurate and would state that conditions are actually safe. </h2></li>
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<p>Your examples do not indicate that the brothers were concerned about the government’s readings. You claim that them getting help from the life saving station illustrates their worry. You claim that the wind blowing hard and the cold weather made them worried about the flight. All of these claims are true; however, no where do your examples indicate that the government’s reading of the wind speed caused the brothers to feel concerned. In fact, you neglected to quote the only part in the passage where the government’s reading is mentioned:</p>
<p>“Morning brought with it a twentyseven-mile gale. Our instruments, which were more delicate and more accurate than the Government’s, made it a little over twenty-four; but the official reading by the United States was twenty-seven miles an hour.”</p>
<p>Where in this quote is it evident that they were concerned about the government’s readings?</p>
<p>Okay, so we agree that the passage showed worry, right?</p>
<p>Now let’s analyze the question: It asked something along the lines of: In the context of the passage, what best describes the feeling of Orville when he states…“Morning brought with it a twentyseven-mile gale. Our instruments, which were more delicate and more accurate than the Government’s, made it a little over twenty-four; but the official reading by the United States was twenty-seven miles an hour.”</p>
<p>The question explicitly states to defer your utmost attention from only just the quotation given. If you were to just look at the quotation, I agree that you would arrive at the conclusion of him being either reliant/prideful. </p>
<p>But, if you were to review the passage and see the quotations I provided, you can link the quotation in the question as further proof of concern. Since, we know Orville is worried that the flight may be in jeopardy by the quotes I included prior, we can see that he would be concerned that the gov. measurements are higher than his tools. Because, if they are to climb any more, their flight will most likely be cancelled. </p>
<p>So, through this process, you can arrive at the answer choice stating that he is concerned with these gov. tools, because they ultimately may prevent him from flying.</p>
<p>The passage does not indicate that the 3 mph difference is what caused their concern. What caused their concern was high winds and cold weather. 24 mph and 27 mph are both considered high wind speeds. Now if you think that the passage implies that a mere 3 mph difference is what caused their concern, then I can’t change what you think the passage implies. But based off of what was actually stated, the passage only briefly mentions the difference in wind speeds and never connects that difference to their concerns.</p>
<p>Ashllley has been reported.</p>
<p>Anyway, even though I think I put concerned (or reliant, I forget), I don’t think there was enough information in the passage to justify either way.</p>
<p>I just thing prideful is too strong of an answer. idk tho</p>
<p>@SoccerRyan
Notice that the implications of concern and worry that circumscribe the quote.</p>
<p>Well, you never can tell what will happen—if conditions are favorable." Nevertheless, he asked permission to stay overnight and watch the attempted flight. (Right before quote)</p>
<p>Morning brought with it a twentyseven-mile gale. Our instruments, which were more delicate and more accurate than the Government’s, made it a little over twenty-four; but the official reading by the United States was twenty-seven miles an hour. (Right After Quote) As soon as it was light we ran up our signal flag for help from the life saving station. Three men were off duty that day, and came pounding over to camp. They were John T. Daniels, A. D. Etheridge and W. S. Daugh. Before we were ready to make the flight a small boy of about thirteen or fourteen came walking past.</p>
<p>Both prior and after the quote that is being analyzed, concern is quite clearly presented. If you follow the quotation, it gives you the sense that the inaccuracy of the gov tools is what leads to the concern of orville and the reason for him calling for help later.</p>
<p>Does this make sense? It isn’t the quote, but what surrounds the quote that makes concerned the best choice…</p>
<p>yeah what the hell, after re-rreading that quote from the passage, I don’t see how people picked prideful.</p>
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<p>The question was asking ONLY for this part.</p>
<p>The question was pretty much asking “what did the mention of the Wright brothers’ own instruments indicate?” I put prideful because they were talking about how much better their own instruments were compared to the governments’. Otherwise, there was no reason for that part to be included in the passage.</p>
<p>I can see why you put concerned, and indeed I think they were concerned about their flight, but you were only supposed to look at why they mentioned their own instruments. I still don’t see how saying “our instruments were better than the governments’” showed any concern from the Wright brothers.</p>
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“Our instruments, which were more delicate and more accurate than the Government’s, made it a little over twenty-four; but the official reading by the United States was twenty-seven miles an hour.”
It’s pretty obvious why people picked prideful. If they weren’t being prideful, they could have just said that their instruments measured twenty-four without adding in that they “more delicate and more accurate.” I can see the argument for all 3 choices, but I still think prideful is the most correct. Maybe they’ll just remove the question or something though because the answer definitely wasn’t as clear as it should have been.</p>