Shooting at Univ. Alabama Huntsville (merged thread folds in Parents Cafe comments)

<p>This was in today’s New York Times, in the Science section:</p>

<p>[Debate</a> Over Huntsville, Ala., Professor Accused in Killings - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/science/23bish.html?ref=science]Debate”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/science/23bish.html?ref=science) </p>

<p>Interestingly, all of the points in the article we’ve already brought up here. (Boy, are we smart!!)</p>

<p>[Documents</a> Reveal Ala. Professor’s Husband Wanted Violent Revenge on Doctor - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587234,00.html?test=latestnews]Documents”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587234,00.html?test=latestnews)
The story gets more strange as new details emerge.</p>

<p>The ATF report states that on April 27, 1995, authorities re-interviewed a witness who admitted that during a conversation in 1993, “Anderson stated that he wanted to get back at victim Dr. Rosenberg and that he wanted to shoot him, bomb him, stab him or strangle Rosenberg.”</p>

<p>[UA-Huntsville</a> owns patent rights to Bishop’s invention - WAFF.com: North Alabama News, Radar, Weather, Sports and Jobs-](<a href=“http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=12033142]UA-Huntsville”>http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=12033142)</p>

<p>[Parents</a> angry Bishop’s daughter back in classroom of UAH massacre victim - BostonHerald.com](<a href=“http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100224parents_angry_bishops_daughter_back_in_classroom_of_uah_massacre_victim/srvc=home&position=recent]Parents”>http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100224parents_angry_bishops_daughter_back_in_classroom_of_uah_massacre_victim/srvc=home&position=recent)</p>

<p>Bishop’s father in law sounds like an extremely insensitive man. The whole family is nuts! Note her husband’s chuckle.</p>

<p>I feel bad for the daughter, but if school has started up again, I think she should attend. She didn’t do anything wrong.</p>

<p>But I agree with tomofboston: How can her husband be chuckling about anything right now?? There’s a serious disconnect with the fact that this is a tragedy for many families.</p>

<p>I have wondered if this particular thread would be good reading for attorneys in this case. At times I felt like CC members were first to discuss and pull together the many details of the case.CC members certainly have put together much of the links to the story in one easy to find package. :)</p>

<p>Well, at least I come here first for any new news. I will admit though that I have lost interest knowing that in the end she will not be set free (barring any majors errors in the trial). I do think the H is an accomplice but it will not be proven.</p>

<p>The husband is in deep denial to protect his ego. He doesn’t want to embrace the fact that he married and had children with a person who could do this.</p>

<p>Certainly the daughter did nothing wrong, but she should have arranged to withdraw from classes. It’s bizarre having her in that class or at that school right now.</p>

<p>Maybe Lily would rather do anything, anywhere, than remain in her house all day with her father.</p>

<p>Yes, the daughter did nothing wrong and should not be punished. But it must be hard enough for the other students to return to the Shelby Center, to return to that lab, without having to deal with the fact that this woman’s mother killed their professor. How about some consideration for the other students in the class. The daughter should be taking the rest of the semester off.</p>

<p>Back to the UAH employment debacle:</p>

<p>People keep saying in this lawsuit happy world a former employer would merely confirm dates of employment and not much else for fear of being sued. Given the frequency of workplace violence in the last several decades, this is no longer true.</p>

<p>For one thing there is not a lot of federal or state law on the subject of employment verification. As a former employer, you can and should disclose facts. If you have fired or not renewed a contract for cause, it is your obligation to reveal that to a potential employer if they ask. In particular if the employee has been let go for drugs, theft, threats of violence, or some other reason which could seriously impact the future employer and you, as the former employer, don’t reveal that, you could be sued!!</p>

<p>So, in her CV, Bishop omits the fact that she worked at Children’s Hospital as a post-doc but she does include employment at the Cardiology Lab in 1996 where she exploded in anger because she was not the lead author of a paper. Her employer should have revealed that to UAH. The question is: Did UAH even ask? I bet they didn’t. </p>

<p>So, not only did UAH not catch a gap in her resume, they probably didn’t ask basic questions (like “Was she let go for cause?”). If they had, her former employers would have been obligated to answer truthfully.</p>

<p>This is pure speculation, I know, but probably the secretaries and lab techs that are hired by UAH undergo a far more rigorous vetting than the professors do!!</p>

<p>I feel really bad for those kids. I wonder how their classmates will treat them from now on.</p>

<p>The kids really need to be moved to another area.</p>

<p>If only we knew how “sane” the children are, with such a disturbed MO and defensive FA.</p>

<p>I don’t know why dtr doesn’t work from home, or how she is handling remorse.</p>

<p>My heart goes out to the children, especially the daughter who finds herself in the middle of a MESS that was none of her making. What a situation for her tio be in. She can hold her head up high and stay the course. But her presence does have to make things uncomfortable. She really is just an innocent “bystander” who probably does not want to loose out on her education. And she likely has no idea where the money will come from for next years tuition. I would hope that the “invention” does well enough to provide for the children, not only of the victims (UAH has said Dr. Bishop’s share would go to the families of the victims) but of the shooter. They will need even more help as they likely will be shunned by certain members of the community at a time they really need emotional support and assistance.</p>

<p>The governing board of the University System of Alabama, or the legislature or whomever has the authority should immediate authorize a transfer and tuition waiver to another UA campus for Bishop’s daughter. UAH can make a horrible situation a bit better by seeing that this is done.</p>

<p>“The governing board of the University System of Alabama, or the legislature or whomever has the authority should immediate authorize a transfer and tuition waiver to another UA campus for Bishop’s daughter.”</p>

<p>That unfortunate young woman may not have the money to be able to pay for room and board, and she also may need the emotional support of being around her siblings, friends, and other family members. Horrific as it may seem to us considering the circumstances, UAH’s biology department may be the closest thing to a home that she has. She may feel that she has no other place to go to.</p>

<p>I hope she and her siblings are getting the emotional support that they need from professionals and supportive, well balanced, loved ones.</p>

<p>"The Herald heard from irate UAH parents, indignant that Bishop’s daughter would be allowed to remain in the former class of slain professor Maria Ragland Davis, 50.</p>

<p>“How can anybody support what her mother did? Even her own mother,” the teen’s grandfather fired back.</p>

<p>Davis’ widower, Salumote Davis, said he didn’t realize Bishop’s daughter was a student of his late wife, but he would not hold the tragedy against her.</p>

<p>“I don’t have a problem with it,” he said, his voice breaking.</p>

<p>Lily’s father, inventor and science researcher James Anderson Jr., 45, declined to comment on his daughter, saying with a chuckle, “We’re going to let that one dangle in the wind.”"</p>

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That unfortunate young woman may not have the money to be able to pay for room and board, *</p>

<p>I agree that that’s probably the problem. At a minimum, she does have the option to go to the local community college - at least for her biology class. </p>

<p>She’s probably also needed at home to help with the younger kids.</p>

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<p>What a classy reaction from a broken-hearted man.</p>

<p>“. At a minimum, she does have the option to go to the local community college - at least for her biology class.”</p>

<p>Based on some statements her father had made about her education, I’m guessing she’s taking higher level courses. </p>

<p>I am so very sorry for those children. I would not be surprised if they also are having to cope with the shock of learning that their mother killed the uncle that one of them is named after.</p>

<p>I agree she would likely not be able to pay room and board, and might have more student friends and support staying put. Can you imagine transferring to another UA location and coming in as “the D whose mom shot those faculty members.” That could be a far more uncomfortable spot to be in, arriving new at midsemester… and dealing with the whispering and all those fingers pointing. At least the current students that knew her before will be less likely to pass judgment and more likely to be supportive.</p>

<p>Now if the whole family moved away, and the location was less likely to pay that much attention (ie not Alabama and not Boston), she could have a chance at starting over. But to transfer to another UA location, she would not blend in easily. She would be That Girl.</p>