Shooting at Univ. Alabama Huntsville (merged thread folds in Parents Cafe comments)

<p>[Papers</a> Link Husband of Professor to '93 Threat - New York Times, today](<a href=“Papers Link Husband of Professor to ’93 Threat - The New York Times”>Papers Link Husband of Professor to ’93 Threat - The New York Times)</p>

<p>Not too much new here for us, but it is the NYT. According to the article, Anderson gave a telephone interview denying the threat. "I wouldn’t know the guy if he walked into a bar,” he said of Dr. Rosenberg. “And allegedly this tip came into a tip line, and the validity of the witness was never ascertained.” Anderson just can’t stop talking.</p>

<p>I’m really surprised that so many people think the daughter should leave school or that the school should try to make her (which I can’t imagine they can legally do.) If my child went to that school and knew her, I’d have a long talk with him/her about how awful this must be for her and I would hope that my child would have the decency and kindness to step across the space that must be around her and treat her with as much kindness as every other victim of this crime deserves.</p>

<p>“Now if the whole family moved away, and the location was less likely to pay that much attention (ie not Alabama and not Boston), she could have a chance at starting over. But to transfer to another UA location, she would not blend in easily. She would be That Girl.”</p>

<p>She always is going to be That Girl. I think it would be better for her to be That Girl around people who are old friends than in a new location. I agree that compassionate people should be and I hope are reaching out to her and her siblings because they are victims, too. </p>

<p>I also hope that her father – who doesn’t seem to be all there – is allowing and encouraging other people to support his kids during this excruciatingly difficult time.</p>

<p>I hope that people who believe in the power of prayer and meditation are holding all of the victims – including those children – in their prayers and meditation.</p>

<p>In no way do I believe that it would be appropriate to force this unfortunate young woman to leave UAH. I think the option of transferring with financial assistance to another UA branch should be made available to her, if she asks for it. Though I do agree that moving elsewhere in Alabama without her current support system may hurt, rather than help her.</p>

<p>mimk6 is right. I don’t think we are giving her fellow UAH students their fair due. If I had a classmate in her situation I would have allot of sympathy for her and I would try to be as supportive as I could. There are no “sides” in this tragedy.</p>

<p>BCEagle, that article was extraordinary (post #688). Thank you for taking the time to find it.</p>

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<p>I would like to think so. Also, IF Amy successfully establishes an insanity defense, the “legal” reality is that the daughter does not have anything to be ashamed about even as a family member. Sorry about? Maybe yes.</p>

<p>Or do any of you think the daughter had some responsibility to “out” her Mom as a crazy person? That seems to fall to Dad (who seems to be piece of work himself).</p>

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I briefly looked at the ATF file for some of the interesting facts and there a number of holes that they couldn’t fill, no smoking gun, which is why probably they were not charged. For example, the notepad material that was found at the residence does not match the card board used on the mailing package even though they were made by the same company. They obviously were carefully looking at the lever and the receipt from Radio Shack, but the interesting part was that the receipt was over a year old. I don’t know the time line of when she was fired until the bomb was delivered but he must have planned it more than a year before for the receipt to be incriminating. The firearm place where the gun powder may have been purchased keeps no record of any purchase, but I believe they show a photo of the couple and I believe also his dad, but no one was able to recall seeing them.</p>

<p>" I don’t think we are giving her fellow UAH students their fair due. If I had a classmate in her situation I would have allot of sympathy for her and I would try to be as supportive as I could. There are no “sides” in this tragedy."</p>

<p>I’ve noticed that typically when something tragic happens to the family of a young person, often even their most caring friends don’t know how to cope, and end up avoiding the person. This also can happen even to older people whose families are beset by tragedy.</p>

<p>If the kids are as nerdy or geeky as their parents seem to at best be, they also may not have a lot of friends. I also don’t see friends of Amy Bishop or her husband speaking up, which indicates that the kids may not be able to get support from friends of their family.</p>

<p>I also don’t see friends of Amy Bishop or her husband speaking up, which indicates that the kids may not be able to get support from friends of their family.</p>

<p>Very good point! She must have annoyed her neighbors here like she annoyed her neighbors in Mass.</p>

<p>I also thought it interesting that there were no statements of support from any friends, neighbors or friends/associates of the husband. There were scattered positive comments by students or faculty, but that was it. I suspect there was no social circle outside of her department, and even that was tiny with the events of the last 1-2 years. </p>

<p>My guess is that there were no play groups, no shared car-pools, no sleep-over family friends. I am still worried about those kids.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>I agree…</p>

<p>They live in a nice neighborhood in a nice home. This family is sounding odd like that balloon boy family (although they didn’t kill anyone.)</p>

<p>mom2collegekids, I’ve been thinking about the balloon-boy family, too! </p>

<p>sunnyflorida, The articles about the Bishop-Anderson family’s time in Ipswich, where Amy had so much conflict with neighbors, stated that her children were not allowed to play with other kids. I wonder just how isolated this disfunctional family was. I hope that there is someone to help the kids through this crisis, and the years ahead.</p>

<p>One more interesting fact came out of this article. Besides Judith and Sam refusal to cooperate on the new investigation (surprise surprise!), on a photo taken from the crime scene, it is reported that in Amy room next to where the first shell was found, there was another newspaper article that chronicled similar attack.</p>

<p>[Norfolk</a> DA seeks an inquest in Seth Bishop’s 1986 death - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/02/norfolk_da_seek.html]Norfolk”>http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/02/norfolk_da_seek.html)</p>

<p>Similar to the one above but this one has even more details about the article in the photo.</p>

<p>[DA</a> asks judge to make ‘inquest’ into ‘86 Bishop case - BostonHerald.com](<a href=“http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100225da_judge_making_inquest_into_86_bishop_case/srvc=home&position=0]DA”>http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100225da_judge_making_inquest_into_86_bishop_case/srvc=home&position=0)</p>

<p>I think the IQ test was incorrect. Only an idiot would copy a crime from a newspaper story and then leave the clipping next to the shells as she ran from the scene!</p>

<p>^^^^No kidding.</p>

<p>I’m tired of reading every detail of Amy Bishop’s life and career. Here is a profile of one of the victims, Prof. Maria Ragland Davis:</p>

<p>[Maria</a> Ragland Davis, 52, Did Research to Help Developing Countries - Research - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/Maria-Ragland-Davis-52-Did/64198/]Maria”>http://chronicle.com/article/Maria-Ragland-Davis-52-Did/64198/)</p>

<p>She seems to have been a talented researcher and a dedicated teacher, with a special interest in mentoring minority and disadvantaged students.</p>

<p>I think she must have taken an on-line IQ test and cheated on it.</p>

<p>Another article from the New York Times:</p>

<p>[The</a> Amy Bishop Case - Violence that Art Didn’t See Coming](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/arts/28bishop.html?scp=2&sq=amy+bishop&st=nyt]The”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/arts/28bishop.html?scp=2&sq=amy+bishop&st=nyt)</p>

<p>interesting – here are a few excerpts:</p>

<p>"Rampages of this sort have become familiar. But with rare exceptions they have been the preserve of men: lonely, alienated psycho killers with arsenals of high-powered weapons and feverishly composed manifestos.</p>

<p>With remarkable suddenness Dr. Bishop has disrupted the pattern. When she reportedly discharged her 9-millimeter handgun, she also punctured longstanding assumptions, or illusions, about women and violence — particularly as a fuller picture of her past begins to emerge, much of it indicating a possible record of previous violent episodes, including the shooting death of her brother in 1986, and her suspected role in assembling a pipe bomb mailed to a faculty member at the Harvard Medical School in 1994, when Dr. Bishop was studying there."</p>

<p>“the landscape of unprovoked but premeditated female violence remains strangely unexplored. Women who kill are “relegated to an ‘exceptional case’ status that rests upon some exceptional, or untoward killing circumstance: the battered wife who kills her abusive husband; the postpartum psychotic mother who kills her newborn infant,” Candice Skrapec, a professor of criminology, noted in “The Female Serial Killer,” an essay included in the anthology “Moving Targets: Women, Murder and Representation” (1994).”</p>