<p>How would one know or verify this fact? Did they keep statistics…and were the ones who made the determinations using reliable methods? If they say they did…I’m wondering if they also have the Brooklyn Bridge for sale. </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that even during the days of the first landings of the Puritans, there was much evidence of premarital sex. One account from wedding records kept from that period stated that in some areas of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, nearly half of the weddings were with couples where the bride was already visibly pregnant…</p>
<p>I think the way that CNN is covering the reaction of people in the college-age community in IV is to their credit. </p>
<p>The descriptions of how students stepped in to try to save lives, alert 911, comfort victims, etc., is a good reminder that the entitled, narcissistic madman who created this tragedy is not representative of the students and other people who live in this area or of “privileged” young adults in general. </p>
<p>There’s where I disagree. He was diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder when he was young. Even as a young kid, he was bullied and regarded as odd. This was a kid who was not able to read social signals. </p>
<p>He wasn’t going to get a hot blonde, and he also was unlikely to find any other girlfriend, because he didn’t have a clue about how to go about it. Apparently he didn’t have male friends either, for the same reason-- he didn’t know how.</p>
<p>It’s obvious why a kid like that would gravitate to the vile “pick up artist” community-- because they say they can teach a guy to pick up a girl. But even the skills that such people advise require the ability to read social signals, and people with autism lack that ability.</p>
<p>I don’t read anything into his having had multiple therapists. He was 22, and had been diagnosed as a young kid. I’d expect him to have had multiple therapists over fifteen years or whatever it was.</p>
<p>I thought it was interesting this kid has been in and out of many courses (without completing any of them) at SBCC since 2011. So what is wrong with this picture? A kid with rich parents is allowed to enroll in as many courses as he wants at very low taxpayer-subsidized rates. I have a problem with our community colleges that allow rich (or even middle class) kids to take as many courses as they like at taxpayer expense without a serious effort to graduate from the school within a reasonable timeframe… These courses are dirt cheap and apparently there is no penalty for dropping out of them. Seems like a waste of money to me.</p>
<p>I don’t think it has anything to do with the facts about whether or not there is more or less premarital sex than years ago.</p>
<p>It is all about the perception.</p>
<p>The “wink, wink, nod-nod” of a while ago has been replaced with open discussions.
The “scandalous” lyrics of a misunderstanding about what two teens did (“Wake up Little Suzy”…“our reputation is shot”) replaced with much more graphic lyrics today.
And don’t forget, that some people look at facebook and conclude that all their friends have a better life and are really active.</p>
<p>Most public community colleges I know of are nominally open-enrollment and allow in-state rates for anyone whose family or who him/herself meet residency eligibility requirements.</p>
<p>There’s a possibility his inability to progress at SBCC may be an indication of one possible reason why he wasn’t able to attend a 4-year college. </p>
<p>And unlike many friends who took a longer route to completing their community college programs, this murderer didn’t have financial struggles requiring him to hold down a full-time job to defray community college expenses, living, and family needs. </p>
<p>I agree to a point, goldenpooch. But I bet it is far more likely that kids fail to complete CC courses or programs because of financial or other hardships. Many have jobs and family obligations that get in the way of college and derail their plans.</p>
<p>Another thing that is really horrible about this is how the manifesto lays bare the details of the killer’s family life–right down to his sister’s sexual relationships. All of it is now out there for public consumption, and will be read by millions of people. Imagine being the sister or the little brother who now knows his jealous brother wanted him dead.</p>
<p>Goldenpooch,
I agree it’s a waste of money, but a lot of students do it, not just rich ones. At least his family probably paid taxes, so it was their money wasted. </p>
<p>Most do it. They have no plan to derail. They just go. And, then they quit. And, then they go again. Not unusual.</p>
<p>“According to a report on Southern California Public Radio, there is plenty of room for improvement in California community colleges today. A study conducted by California State University, Sacramento, found that seven of every 10 students do not complete a two-year degree or transfer to a four-year institution.”</p>
<p>Yeah, I wondered about that, too. He was a little guy. How did he overpower 3 roommates? And, why stab them all. That sounds awful. He had guns.</p>
<p>What does his comm college record have anything to do with anything? What difference would it have made to “disallow” him from enrolling? Good lord. The kid was seriously mentally ill and people are talking about whether he should or should not have been allowed to enroll? Doesn’t make one bit of freakin difference. </p>
<p>"I don’t think it has anything to do with the facts about whether or not there is more or less premarital sex than years ago.</p>
<p>It is all about the perception."</p>
<p>His perceptions weren’t NORMAL. He felt he was entitled to a hot girl and entitled to punish those who spurned him. That would have been the case whether we were living in the era of Wake Up Little Suzy or Blurred Lines. </p>
You shouldn’t have a problem with a person who “has money” being able to purchase something available to the public. </p>
<p>
Killers have varying motives that determine their weapon of choice. His hatred for his roommates were probably deeply rooted calling for a knife rather than a simple gun shot. </p>
<p>True, but one major problem with the way this murdering spree is being covered is how this aspect is emphasized to the point it almost seems like a way to excuse what he did…or that it implied he couldn’t have helped it. </p>
<p>The excusing or “he can’t help it” implications isn’t likely to be the case considering all the evidence he left which showed he deliberated and planned this act and knew he had to keep a lower profile after the police came to do a welfare check per parental request. </p>
<p>My impression from the evidence he left is he may have been mentally ill…but that’s not necessarily the only or the most important part. </p>
<p>He was also acting out of extreme over entitlement and still cognizant and aware of his actions enough to be justifiably condemned and held fully responsible for his heinous actions. </p>
<p>I’m thinking he didn’t want to make the noise before ‘he got started’ with the Retribution. He just stated as if it were fact that he would “have to” kill his roommates before going out to kill others, but I don’t see the connection at all, actually.</p>
<p>Bay, I wondered too how he was able to stab three men. He looked small, although he did bodybuilding, but to overpower three! He must have done the stabbing one by one, maybe as each returned to the apartment. If the victims had been stabbed while another victim was there the screams would have alerted the others. I imagine he didn’t use the guns in order to avoid the noise which would have prevented the rest of his day of retribution from being carried out.</p>