<p>And that is the scary thing, isn’t it?
Smokers never think they will get lung cancer (“my mom smoked until she was 95”)
Speeders never think they will get into an accident (“I know my car”)
Sun bathers never think they will get skin cancer (“I tan evenly”).</p>
<p>Parents of depressed kids who have some mental health issues would also never think that they would be capable of, much less carry out, a brutal act like that.
(unless of course there were obvious warning signs, like all the pets dying mysteriously, siblings attacked, violent outbursts at home, etc)</p>
<p>I think the parents were in denial. Do I fault them for that? No. Many parents would be or are in denial about their child’s capabilities and intents. </p>
<p>“So, you tell him no, kick him out and leave him homeless.”</p>
<p>Having read parts of his manifesto, I seriously doubt he wouldn’t have complied with the conditions imposed on him in exchange for any material support. This kid was too use to his upper middle class existence and the creature comforts which he was afforded his entire life. He wasn’t going to give it all up so he could live on the streets. I may be wrong but I doubt it.</p>
<p>What is truly head-shaking is that the studies you posted would have done nothing, absolutely nothing, zip, nada, zilch for this case, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Virginia Tech or the Fort Hood shooting (although that was “workplace violence”).</p>
<p>So rather than address the issues, people waste time on meaningless gestures…or get upset and shake their heads when people don’t fall in line with the meaningless gestures.</p>
<p>“We must do something!”
“Well, X is something”
“Okay, lets do X!!”</p>
<p>(“uhhh, X won’t have any impact”)</p>
<p>“Oh, so you are against doing something! How head-shaking is that?!”</p>
<p>Exactly, most of this stuff was hidden from others, a deep secret inner life full of rage and entitlement. Most kids with preexisting mental health issues are just not going to go on to do something like this .</p>
<p>“Shrinkrap, can you give us a feeling of who gets prescribed Risperdal, and why you’d prescribe it? I got the impression it wouldn’t be the first medication tried, because it’s got a lot of nasty side effects. Is that correct?”</p>
<p>Sorry; I was getting on plane. </p>
<p>“FDA approved” for schizophrenia, manic phase of bipolar disorder, irritability in Autism, and a few others. Freqently used off label, not illegal, and in my experienice more for psychotic symptoms with diagnosis other than schizophrenia, and added to stimulants for kids with ADHD and ODD and moderate to severe aggression rather than insomnia. Not good, but better than nothing, which is often widely available. </p>
<p>“The Monday morning QB-ing here is sickening.”</p>
<p>Tony Bourdakis’ son was killed in 2001 when David Attias plowed his car into his beloved son in an incident eerily similar to what happened in Isla Vista last Friday. Here are his views on what happened:</p>
<p>“Tony Bourdakis wonders why the privileged children of Hollywood titans like Rodger and the man who killed his son are allowed to roam the streets despite obvious mental problems. “His parents, in my perspective, just ignored the situation,” Bourdakis said of Attias. "It is not the way responsible parents would do it.”</p>
<p>Why is the frequency what matters?
In 2011, Norway, a country of population of 5M, 1/63 of the US, had a gun attack that killed 77 people, injuring over 200 more. On a per capita basis, that is pretty serious.</p>
<p>That is more than the sum of:
UCSB
Sandy Hook
Fort Hood
Virginia Tech
Aurora</p>
<p>BTW, to own a gun in Norway you have to have a documented need for a gun.</p>
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<p>Sure, let’s focus efforts on large-capacity magazines.
What a joke.</p>
<p>I totally get the grief but I don’t think the killer was a privileged child of a Hollywood titan who was allowed to " roam the streets despite obvious mental problems." What would you have done? I see people all the time in real life that seem a little off. You can’t lock everybody up. I am really not sure what the answer is. </p>
<p>In our state, all you have to do to get them involuntarily snatched up, is call 911 and say they threatened to harm children.
No questions asked, they will be arrested and held for three days.</p>
<p>That’s Washington? I have to check out how that works. There must be a lot more “beds” there. I wonder if they are mostly publicly or privately funded. </p>
<p>Hang on. If I call 911 and say that emeraldkity is threatening to harm children, you’ll be jailed for three days? I doubt it’s that simple. That’s too easy for bad people to abuse.</p>
<p>“BTW, to own a gun in Norway you have to have a documented need for a gun.”</p>
<p>Sounds like a good plan to me.</p>
<p>And those of you who are acting as though this kid was Richie Rich – come on. “Privileged children of Hollywood titans”? You’d think this was the kid of Steven Spielberg or George Lucas or something. Anyway, the privilege has nothing to do with anything, because mental illness strikes everyone at all SES levels. </p>
<p>It happened to me, when my mother thought i was depressed and was going to harm myself. ( I wasnt)
She called police, and when they didnt respond, she told them I was going to harm the children.
( I wasnt)
They didnt ask if she was under psychiatric care herself, like maybe on Thorazine?
Oregon also has a loose interpretation. The Oregon statute requires arrest in the event of “fear of imminent serious physical injury,” a concept that is so ambiguous that it eludes definition.</p>
<p>Well yes it is. There should be some requirement of the person making the accusation, to at least go to the police station so their credibility can be assessed.</p>