<p>Ya Haha irishfan</p>
<p>Although Notre Dame is a great university, the University of Michigan is a much better option for you. Not only do you get the great benefit of instate tuition, but Michigan’s political science and undergraduate business programs are top 5 in the nation.</p>
<p>“ND for Business and UofM for anything else.”</p>
<p>Michigan>ND for business too.</p>
<p>From a purely academic point of view, whether Business, Engineering or Political Science, Michigan is a notch above. However, Notre Dame is also excellent, and if one feels Notre Dame is a better fit, going to Notre Dame would be the right choice.</p>
<p>zier, if one is interrested in Management Consulting or Investment Banking, Ross as the edge over Mendoza.</p>
<p>Well irishfan my bartender the other night was a spring grad of the Ross business school. My beer didn’t taste any different from when other bartenders pour my draft but the conversation seemed a bit more intelligent.<br>
Seems like there is no golden ticket no matter where you go to school so go where you feel the connection.
BTW I did tip a little more than usual so I suppose the degree is helping his wallet in some small ways…lol</p>
<p>^^^^Perhaps I should mention the anectdotal experience I had with the ND graduate at the counter of a McDonalds taking my order. Btw, I didn’t tip him at all. At least the Michigan/Ross grad was smart enough to be employed at a business where he knew he could earn more than minimum wage. LOL</p>
<p>irishfan, ask your folks if they’ll split the difference with you.
Then choose Michigan and “earn” $15k a year…when you get out you’ll have a nice downpayment or enough money to rent a box seat at every ND game for the rest of your life ;)</p>
<p>^^^^^Once he goes “Blue” he will forget about rooting for the Irish. :-)</p>
<p>The only thing I can think of that might affect your decision is that you would have to apply to get into Ross for business and run the risk of not getting in and being stuck at U of M. At Notre Dame you don’t have to apply to get into Mendoza.</p>
<p>haha i like that idea kmomcmom13</p>
<p>I would definitely say Michigan would be a better option. Personally, the Notre Dame campus is extremely limited in terms of opportunities for extracurricular desires in business which would only hinder you.</p>
<p>Are there any other choices that you have in mind? Have you thought about Wharton or any other schools? If UofM and ND seem too comparable to you, hopefully you applied to some other business schools.</p>
<p>Yeah I applied to wharton as well as duke Stanford and some ivies so on the off chance I get into one of those there would be more decisions</p>
<p>you should also take note of other factors i.e. exit options, grade inflation that will ultimately help you more than the relative “prestige” of one college over another</p>
<p>Michigan definitely wins</p>
<p>I would never go to Notre Dame, but I get it.</p>
<p>Anyways, a Michigan family that can afford Notre Dame doesn’t care about rankings, they want exclusivity and prestige and the parents cut that massive check for bragging rights. If you apply and get into ND, you go to ND. Your Dad will be proud of you as he brags about you in South Bend, while 100 of country club friends’ kids go to Ann Arbor. Both are accomplishments, it’s just an exclusivity thing. You in South Bend is basically saying, hey my kid’s probably a tiny bit smarter than yours and we’re so rich that we’re not sweating the extra $30,000 a year it’s costing us (vs. Michigan).</p>
<p>this thread is over a year old… stop trying to provoke pointless arguments online…</p>
<p>The very idea of prestige is overrated so don’t base everything on that. Besides, prestige is similar for these schools.</p>
<p>Main differences might be these:
Notre Dame is smaller sized so it’s probably easier to meet and get personal attention.
UM is more diverse and A2 is a dynamic full-blown college town. ND doesn’t have that by any stretch.</p>
<p>Both campuses are pretty. I have been to ND. It’s a more consistent architecture if you like that. I prefer the diversity of UM and also prefer its great buildings: Law, Rackham, Library.</p>
<p>ND has a more conservative atmosphere. You might prefer that. All the better if you are Catholic.</p>
<p>UM has more programs and schools.</p>
<p>Unless you are rich, don’t count out the tuition. When you are 17, you don’t grasp just how expensive life is and how limited the opportunities are. Save your pennies.</p>
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<p>I didn’t realize how old it was when I was reading it. And two, I’m not trying to provoke anything. All of the kids I know that couldn’t get into ND, went to Michigan–but everyone here is calling Michigan more elite. If money isn’t an issue and you’re accepted into ND, it’s a no-brainer. I don’t think it’s an insult to Michigan. You don’t have to hate the school you turn down.</p>
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<p>OOS Michigan applicants are a wealthy bunch as are ND Catholics from all over the country. Both groups know what they’re getting into when they hit up Mom & Dad for the $75 application fee. Even more so if an in-state Michigan kid is gunning for ND.</p>
<p>Define “elite” lakeforest? We are talking about academic institutions. As such, “elite” should allude to academic prowess. Notre Dame does not hold a candle to Michigan. If you mean “exclusivity” (not the same as elite), then I would agree that Notre Dame is harder to get into (function of size), although not by as much as you would think. I would say that Notre Dame is only slightly more selective than Michigan, and Michigan is closing the gap in a hurry. In the next 3-4 years, Michigan could be more selective than Notre Dame.</p>
<p>When it comes to reputation, Michigan and Notre Dame are both very strong, but in very different ways.</p>
<p>Agree in different ways. I hold ND in very high regard because I’ve witnessed first hand really impressive friends get rejected and go to their safety, Michigan. ND is both exclusive and elite, to any unbiased person. Doesn’t mean I want to go there–I don’t–but I respect it a great deal.</p>
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<p>Probably not. And even still, I don’t understand why some Michigan grads are so obsessed with lowering the acceptance rate, raising the median numbers, etc. It’s unbecoming, especially when you attended the school when it was easier to get in. Very, “I’m in, grab the ladder!” The only people that should really be impressed and boast about it being more selective are entering freshmen and future applicants that are accepted, with the new requirements. All of my Dad’s friends who went to Michigan or even Ivies talk about how there’s no chance they’d get in today with numbers they got in with in the 70s and 80s. But then there’s a group of people who think the new requirements or standards are in some way a reflection of their numbers at 17 yo–they’re not.</p>