<p>i'm in the school of engineering, and after freshman year i definitely overworked myself and ended up hating computer programming. i want still want to stay in the school, and i am interested in ioe or the idea of using the math skills along with ergonomics to help create efficient systems. However, i'm not sure if it would be a good fit if it requires a lot of programming. if not, are there any other engineering majors that don't require much programming? any engineers struggling with the same dilemma?
please help!!
thanks!:)</p>
<p>If you do not like what you are doing then should defnitely look for something that you feel more passionate about. I don’t know much about engineering but would have to think there are areas that do not require computer programming also it may be hard to avoid use of computer systems. The career office may be able to help you.</p>
<p>Can I ask whose 101 section you took? Some of them are really bad. </p>
<p>If you are interested in Ergonomics I don’t think there is a lot of programming required. I’m pretty sure at least that there isn’t any in the ergonomics coursework. You could email one of the professors in Ergonomics and ask what they think. Yili Liu (<a href=“mailto:yililiu@umich.edu”>yililiu@umich.edu</a>) is a really nice guy and he’d probably be responsive to your questions. </p>
<p>Additionally, I think most majors don’t require much programming. Definitely stay out of EECS, but anything else I think is relatively programming lite. But you might want someone else to answer those questions.</p>
<p>Also… There’s been a lot of IOE topics recently.</p>
<p>Yeah guys… Do the real engineering majors… </p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Just wondering though, it was only your first year, what engineering courses did you take? </p>
<p>Also, there really isn’t much programming if you aren’t EECS. Like with ME, the most you’ll do is Matlab really. Well you have to take EECS 314 and some other stuff too. Actually, if you really couldn’t even handle 101, your options may be limited.</p>
<p>I graduated in 2011 with a BSE in electrical engineering (3.5 GPA) and I was/am terrible at programming. Couldn’t do anything beyond Engin 101 programming. (But I was very good at the Engin 101 stuff.) </p>
<p>If I can graduate with an EE degree with no knowledge of programming beyond if statements and for loops, I’m sure you can find a way to make it through one of the other engineering majors. Thankfully my chosen career path makes absolutely no use of programming.</p>
<p>yea there have been a lot of ioe threads. Also all of them are related to hating programming specially 101. Somethin quite terribly evil musta occurred in this years 101 sections to scar so many peopel lol.</p>
<p>You should have just payed the kids taking 151 to do it. I know I got hit up a few times.</p>
<p>@hylyfe, Fall 2011 Engineering 101 had a ridiculously high fail rate (fail meaning C or lower). I’ve heard from advisers that it was near 60% fail rate. Winter 2012 was made wayyyyyyy easier. Lots of kids came out with A’s. Totally unfair, in my opinion, but that’s just how things work sometimes.</p>
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<p>No way. 60% fail? Who taught those sections?</p>
<p>No way it was a 60% fail rate. Some one was just making up a number to make themselves feel better.</p>
<p>^ Agreed. Typically there’s a curve set in place. For 101, it’s quite generous at about B range.</p>
<p>Even if it wasn’t 60%, it was way higher than they wanted it to be and made Winter 2012 a joke compared to Fall 2011. There was definitely a good amount of people that didn’t pass in Fall 2011. </p>
<p>@square, there’s no curve for 101. It’s a straight scale. The only thing that they did for us was allow us to make up some points on the second exam (averages are typically 80+, mean was 67.75 and median was 70).</p>
<p>The professors were Wellman, Ringenberg and Kominsky.</p>
<p>the averages for fall 2011 engineering 101 were a lot lower than previous years. i took it in the fall and i found it to be extremely difficult. i was able to understand the logic, but i freak out when i have to type a code by myself. most people i knew in the class were having a hard time with the class too. i know some others who took it in the winter and it was easier.</p>