<p>I'm international student and attended 4 years in US high school, since most of the universities don't require 4 years student to take Toefl but I see most of the international students in my school take Toefl so I'm kind of ambivalence. Should I take the Toefl or not, if I take Toefl, will it increase my chance? And if I don't like my score, can I hide it? Thanks you! :)</p>
<p>TOEFL highlights that English isn’t your first language and thus provides context wrt your CR/W scores.
In addition, each college has its rules, so read their website, then if the answer isn’t there, email Admissions :)</p>
<p>@myos1634, well I knew, so many colleges that don’t require TOEFL if I’m 4 years high school student in the US, I even email some school’s admission and they said it’s not necessary to take TOEFL but my concern is will the TOEFL increase my chance of getting in any school even though that school doesn’t require me to take TOEFL. Thanks you!</p>
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Not at all.</p>
<p>@skieurope will it decrease my chance if I won’t take Toefl?</p>
<p>No. It’ll just signal you were an ELL, which will provide context, but your admission or non admission won’t rest on that. In addition, you’d be expected to do very very well on it. </p>
<p>@myos1634 What is ELLL? </p>
<p>@ngongja English Language Learner</p>
<p>If you score 640+ in reading section of SAT,
you won’t need TOEFL at all.</p>
<p>Some schools like Amherst and Dartmouth require higher score like 700 though…</p>
<p>So the best way not to take Toefl is to have good SAT reading score</p>
<p>“If you score 640+ in reading section of SAT, you won’t need TOEFL at all.”</p>
<p>Not necessarily true, paul2752. Each college and university in the US sets its own policy about this. You really do have to ask each place separately.</p>
<p>Oh its okay because I actually asked a lot of schools about it.
And all the time they said:</p>
<p>If your reading SAT is high enough(around 640+ for high tiers, some require 700)
Or
If you attended US public school for 4 years</p>
<p>So, having a great SAT reading does save time. Based on my experience, all Ivy schools waive Toefl if you have high enough Reading score. For example, I had 710.</p>
<p>BTW I wish college looked at average English class grades, not just test score :-(</p>