<p>" Havent you heard about all the schools who give students prostitutes and all those other benefits. I have even heard from some of my friends that have been recruited that they make you do monthly health exams and if they dont like something they drop you. If i were to hurt myself and not be able to run for a year im 100% sure they wont be battling their morals when they pull their support. "</p>
<p>Certainly not all colleges do things like that. You also have a choice about not applying to a college that does those kind of things.</p>
<p>"Havent you heard about all the schools who give students prostitutes ...."</p>
<p>First off, that does not happen at all colleges. Second, the morality of the college is not the concern, your morality. Whether or not the college does something should not influence your own morality.</p>
<p>If you are truly being "recruited", doesn't the school make you sign a contract promising that you will run track for them WHEN (not if) you attend their school?</p>
<p>And isn't it also true that if you violate that agreement, your admission can be easily rescinded?</p>
<p>For your own sake, I think you better let him know.</p>
<p>I will say it again. Life is not just. If this is the school you really want to go to, why the heck not. I mean, you are surely not the first person to do this. </p>
<p>We'll all be laughing about this in 10 years (not even). Unless you are the type, your conscience shouldn't be gnawing on you too much. Mine personally would to some extent, but I think college recruitment based on things other than merit is not the coolest thing ever anyway.</p>
<p>But honestly you guys, let him do what he likes. College is probably one of the 3 most important decisions of your life, and if you found a way, (regardless of your intentions) to achieve it, porque no? Eh, whatever.</p>
<p>Why not just tell him you're not completely 100% sure you'll be running? You might get some of the benefits, since they'll want you to run, and you can just gradually let them down. </p>
<p>These "grey area" situations are all a slippery slope.</p>
<p>Call me crazy, but it seems to me that life shouldn't be about "what you can get away with" - perhaps you should try and focus on attending the best possible school that accepts you on your FULL merits (regardless of whether you run track) - put another way, if a school pulls their acceptance because you DON'T run track, would you really want to go there?</p>
<p>At any rate, I guess it's good to know that we seem to have no shortage of future Enron and Worldcom CEO's waiting in the wings...</p>
<p>He thinks that im not 100% going to attend his school and he knows that im being recruited by 2 other schools. I really love the school and i want to make sure i get in. </p>
<p>"If you are truly being "recruited", doesn't the school make you sign a contract promising that you will run track for them WHEN (not if) you attend their school?</p>
<p>And isn't it also true that if you violate that agreement, your admission can be easily rescinded?</p>
<p>For your own sake, I think you better let him know."</p>
<p>If you are academically admissable they use your athletic ability as a "talent" that gives extra weight to your application. If your are recruited solely b/c of athletics then they have some kind of contract i think but this isnt the case for me. The commitment date is sometime in april or may which gives you time to explore other schools even after your admitted.</p>
<p>There various moral positions from which not telling the coach is the right thing to do, yet the majority of the posters think that if you disagree with the action, it is immoral ull stop period. Has anyone ever heard of the fundamental attribution error?</p>
<p>Also, the concept of Karma should be further studied by Ivy_grad.</p>
<p>The OP is an admittedly amoral person. My fervent hope is that the school he seeks to get into has done what I'm sure many of us have done and looked at his other posts to figure out which school he so badly wants to attend that he will lie and cheat just to gain admission. Then I hope that they rescind any interest in him at all--both as an athlete and as a prospective student. I also hope that, until this young man matures, I never have to meet him or deal with him on a professional level. He says he wants to be an engineer. Why would anybody want to hire an admittedly amoral engineer?</p>
<p>omg this piper guy just ripped me apart... seriously y would u wish someone doesnt get accepted into a school just b/c they dont agree with you on something. I am neither lying nor cheating in this whole process and i doubt coaches come check out cc anyway. seriously how lame can you get?? Maturity has nothing to do with this situation im sure many successful adults do things to get advantages in life. I think it is worse not to take advantage of something that will get you what you want (by legal means of course).</p>
<p>Looks like we are talking about Ohio University. Boy, it wouldn't take much for someone to drop the track coach an email alerting him that a certain athlete who recently moved to Memphis is stringing him along.</p>
<p>Terrybhs06, do you not think that omitting relevant information is lying? As in "lying by omission?" Its possible that you dont think so, or havent considered this idea, but think about it.</p>
<p>Ivy_grad, you mentioned Karma in post #13. I guess what you said wasnt so off, but it wasnt the complete story. It seems that people think of Karma as this instant cause and effect, whereas there is more to it. What you said wasnt wrong: sorry to single you out like that. I must have focused on you my annoyance at the concept being incorrectly conveyed and discussed.</p>
<p>Piper, many amoral people succeed in society, or are hired by employers. Do you think otherwise?</p>
<p>MomofWildChild, your threat is sickening. Be so "moral," in your view, as to send that e-mail. In that case, I hope you do get sued, although I think many such cases are a waste of time and money.</p>
<p>You clearly must have done well running in high school, devoted a lot of time to it if not loved it. Why are you so sure you won't want to run?? If not for the school's sake, for your own?</p>
<p>Yes, recruited athletes schools spend a lot of time on their sport but because of that also get a lot of support in study, study habits and tutoring.</p>
<p>ok wow this getting out of control... who threatens to send e-mails about things that have nothing to do with them. CC posting is about me getting your opinions not everyone attacking me. You think im leading a coach on and being immoral. Im going to do it anyway end of story case closed. "Confidential" is part of the name of this site. wouldnt it be "immoral" for you to send an e-mail to the coach....
It has also come to my attention that the majority of the people condemning my actions are parents. This highlights the difference in what is considered moral in society. Just because it isnt moral by your generation's standards doesnt mean its not moral by mines. Everything is relative after all. So i suggest that you all go talk to your kids about morals and not threaten to waste your time writing and angry note to a coach.</p>
<p>"You clearly must have done well running in high school, devoted a lot of time to it if not loved it. Why are you so sure you won't want to run?? If not for the school's sake, for your own?</p>
<p>Yes, recruited athletes schools spend a lot of time on their sport but because of that also get a lot of support in study, study habits and tutoring."</p>
<p>Engineering majors generally dont make good athletes simply b/c they dont have the time. I loved running at first but after a while it gets kind of repetitive and I'm not being recruited by any top track schools so I wont have the work ethic to excel and not to mention the stress that running and training puts on your body. I did pretty well in track at the high school level based mostly on my natural speed and the strength i developed lifting weights, in college more emphasis is placed on technique and developing technique takes considerable time.</p>