Should I waste application money on these schools?

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Bandit, what the hell are you talking about? a 34+? Two kids got into ivies from my school with lower ACT scores; one student had a 30 and got into Brown and the other a 32 and got into Yale.

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There will always be exceptions, including URMs, legacies, athletes, and developmental cases. For an average unhooked candidate, don't count on it. I strongly suggest anyone planning to apply to these schools go do a search on CC and the **stats site. Look at posts from 15 Dec and 01 Apr. Look for threads on who got in and what stats. You will get an idea of what it takes, and you will know for sure that perfect scores are not a guarantee of admission.</p>

<p>when cornell posts 28-32 or whatever as their act score range i think it means the average, with the athletes and other stuff factored in. you have to realize that there are ppl appying that are rank 1 or 2, not 21, with almost perfect test cores and amazing extracurriculars in music or debate or research...ect.</p>

<p>you do have a chance to prove yourself as an amazing individual that cornell would want through your essay though...</p>

<p>Even though a 29 is in the middle 50% it is still on the lower side. That would put you somewhere around 38% (not sure of exact numbers, just an estimate). People that are in the lower 50% usually have some extra things like being recruited for sports, being an URM, or some other type of hook.</p>

<p>So kk, mo, or bandito--would getting anything above a 30+ be decent score for those schools?</p>

<p>I would put it more like 34+</p>

<p>For some of the schools just improving his act score would help out a lot but others like HYP would still be reaches. For some of his schools he doesn't even have the requirements to apply. University of Virginia requires a math SAT II. HYP still sound like they still require 3 SAT IIs. Boston University, Northwestern and several other colleges yogurt listed require the writing section on the ACTs (not sure if yogurt has that).</p>

<p>yeah, i have the writing...most colleges require it, thats why i took it</p>

<p>dont listen to kk or bandit; of course having a higher ACT/SAT score helps, but its not necessary, and it doesnt have to be "34+." do your best, aim for something like a 32. good luck, make sure to explain your situation very well. id say its a pretty unique situation.</p>

<p>Bandit is one of the few accurate posters on this site.</p>

<p>"dont listen to kk or bandit; of course having a higher ACT/SAT score helps, but its not necessary, and it doesnt have to be "34+." do your best, aim for something like a 32. good luck, make sure to explain your situation very well. id say its a pretty unique situation."</p>

<p>uhh.. all I said was that his chances would be better if he raised his act score. How is that bad advice?.. and you just gave the same advice. "aim for something like a 32." If I'm not mistaken that sounds like you are telling him to raise his ACT score too.</p>

<p>am i still in the range of acceptance?</p>

<p>Yes but that does not mean you will be accepted. To help improve your chances you should try to improve your score.</p>

<p>srry, i don't want to sound pushy or whatever, i'm just asking for an opinion. If you had to give me a chance of acceptance in percent, what would it be?</p>

<p>for which school</p>

<p>northwestern, wellseley, university of wisconsin madison, university of michigan, UNC, Duke, HYP</p>

<p>"all I said was that his chances would be better if he raised his act score."</p>

<p>uhh.... no, what you said was that they HAD to have a 34, like it was some magical barrier required to pass. im saying they should try their best and see what happens, 32 and 34 are waaaaaay different.</p>

<p>You've got a shot at Mich and Wisconsin with current score, but the others would be significant reaches.</p>

<p>"uhh.... no, what you said was that they HAD to have a 34, like it was some magical barrier required to pass. im saying they should try their best and see what happens, 32 and 34 are waaaaaay different."</p>

<p>You might want to actually read what I wrote before you post. These are my exact words:</p>

<p>"For some of the schools just improving his act score would help out a lot"</p>

<p>does it say 34 in there? Does it say any number in there? No. It was bandit who said the 34+ not me. I was saying the exact same thing you are and for some reason you feel the need to point me out and say not to listen to me.</p>

<p>kk, what do you think my (percentage wise) my chances are for those schools?</p>

<p>clarification:
with your act score, there is a chance of you getting in but if you raise the score, the chances increase, as everyone has been trying to tell you</p>

<p>you have a chance into all of those schools...</p>