I’m a philosophy major at a CC, and am going to be taking all of my prereq’s at Cal before the end of my sophomore year. The prereq’s include
PHILOS 12A: Introduction to Logic (4 units)
PHILOS 25A: Ancient Philosophy (4 units)
PHILOS 25B: Modern Philosophy (4 units)
At my CC, I’ve taken PHIL 20B - History of Modern European Philosophy (which is 3 units, and does not articulate through assist.org). The classes are similar, although the CC class is more of a survey through a huge number of philosophers while I hear the Cal course is more focused on specific philosophers. Still, the classes are similar, and that makes me think they won’t count the CC course at all. Does anyone know if I will I even get credit for the CC course, considering I will be taking Modern Philosophy at Cal? Or am I just worrying over nuances for nothing?
Ok, I’m confused. Do you mean sophomore year at CCC, or do you mean junior year UC?
Regarding a course that may not articulate. If you really feel it matches you can petition, sending in course description and syllabi. They often will accept a previous decline (not always, sometimes).
I assume you mean phil 25B matching your 20B. I do see the word European in one and not the other. It’s transferable (I imagine), so you will get some unit credit, if nothing else.
@lindyk8 I just finished my freshman year. I’m now eligible for a cross-enrollment program with UCB, such that I will be able to take all of my necessary prerequisites at Cal during my sophomore year, before I hopefully transfer as a junior.
I know 20B at CCC won’t count for 25B at Cal. I remember watching a video about the UC Transfer Admissions process, where they had various reasons for not counting courses taken. I know this is kind of vague, but I’m just wondering if my CCC course will count at all, despite that I will be taking another similar yet not completely different course (25B) before I transfer.
Like, generally, if you take one class at one college and take another similar one that does not articulate (but is UC transferable, but is not the exact same class) but as the same class at another college, will the first class count at all?
You need to look at the transferability list. Let me find the steps.
Ok, right, I ALWAYS forget the process.
Just go to assist, pick your CCC and Berkeley. Then do not choose major.
Instead go further down the page and choose UC transferable. It will then ask you to chose the dept and will show what courses are transferable to the UC.
@lindyk8 The CCC course is UC transferable, but I will effectively be taking the same class at two different institutions, so I was curious if the first class I took will be nullified.
My CC has both an Ancient Phil and a Modern Phil survey (20A & 20B), as does Cal (25A & 25B), except Cal’s courses seem to be more in depth, and focused on more specific aspects of certain thinkers, while my CC’s course was more a quick overview of the ideas of a large amount of thinkers. The courses are somewhat different, but they go over very similar material, and because of that I’m worried that my course won’t count. It shouldn’t be a problem, I’ll have enough units either way, but I just want to make sure that I don’t run into trouble, because the two are really similar.
If they are saying the course does not articulate to 25B, then they’re saying, on their end, they don’t see a match. But still you should closely check syllabi and petition if you think they match. They can’t deny the petition and say it doesn’t match, and then not give you credit saying the course matches. So you won’t lose the units either way.
@lindyk8 That’s true. I should get credit for it, then. Reading the syllabi, the two classes are fairly different - the Cal class is much more focused on specific thinkers, which is fairly different from the course I took. Thanks!
Another thing. They aren’t going to examine this very much.
It doesn’t articulate. Check
It’s transferable. Check