<p>CrewDad–the stat about MHC admits to science grad programs was mentioned again and again and again by various administrators throughout D’s 4 years there–that’s my source!!!</p>
<p>I guess I don’t understand why that if “MHC has highest percentage of students entering science graduate (both MD and PhD) programs in the country”, that fact isn’t placed front and center on the college’s webpage,Wiki and college guide books. Seriously, such an impressive statistic would be an unparalleled recruiting tool.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is the outdated statistic the administrators were referring to…</p>
<p>
</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/science_leadership”>https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/science_leadership</a></p>
<p>Prospective applicants are entitled to accurate statistics. :)</p>
<p>Much younger BIL graduated Berklee and promised to join DD Sept to show her some hangouts. Now I’m worried.</p>
<p>DH is PhD in biology but that is a long road. There are many new careers for non PhD scientists that I hope DD learns about and interns in at Simmons.</p>
<p>edit</p>
<p>Thank you everyone for all of the information about each school! What I found interesting is that on US News & CollegeNiche, I discovered that Simmons actually has more graduates who go to grad school or have a job within their first year of graduating. Statistics are below:</p>
<p>Percentage of Students That Went To Grad School Within A Year Of Graduating
Mount Holyoke: 26%
Simmons: 28%</p>
<p>Percentage of Students That Enter Job Market After Graduation
Mount Holyoke: 72%
Simmons: 97%</p>
<p>I think there’s an error in your statistics. The percent of students that go to grad school or get a job within a year needs to add to 100% or less, and your Simmons numbers add to more than 100%.</p>
<p>If you look at the career outcomes sections of the schools’ web sites, you’ll see that for the class of 2013, 84% of Mt Holyoke graduates were employed or in grad school 6 months after graduation, and 86% of Simmons graduates were employed or in grad school within a year after graduation. It’s hard to compare these numbers since presumably additional Mt Holyoke graduates found jobs in the following 6 months, but they’re in the same ballpark.</p>
<p>^^one thing to note is that in science grad school! at least! you often count grad school and job as the same thing if it is a research or teaching assistant position</p>
<p>The entire sentence reads:
<a href=“https://www.mtholyoke.edu/cdc/careers/outcomes”>https://www.mtholyoke.edu/cdc/careers/outcomes</a></p>
<p>Without knowing what percentage of the class of 2013 was used in the calculation, the 84 percent is meaningless.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine that Simmons knew what 100 percent of the graduates were doing up to a year after graduation, but there is no mention otherwise.</p>
<p>
<a href=“http://www.simmons.edu/undergraduate/career/”>http://www.simmons.edu/undergraduate/career/</a></p>
<p>These are both from the their career surveys which you can find on the their web sites, though the detailed MHC report is password protected. The Simmons numbers are based on a 55% response rate. Obviously not ideal, but par for the course for surveys like this. The MHC response rate is probably similar. </p>
<p>It’s unfortunate that MHC, as with most colleges, doesn’t make the response rate information public. It’s possible that MHC’s response rate is greater than 55 percent. Middlebury and Hamilton had a 71 and 92 percent response rate respectively. On the other hand, only 40 percent of Gettysburg College alums responded to their survey. With response rates varying so greatly, unless a college publishes their response rate, their career survey is meaningless.</p>
<p>Trust me, South Hadley is a cute little town but there are plenty of social work opportunities in the general area – Springfield, etc. You should apply to both-- neither has an application fee.</p>
<p>I have just completed my visit to both colleges. On the trip, I sat in a Social Work class at Simmons and attended and open house. I additionally went to MHC and attended and info session and tour. After seeing both, I am definitely more towards Simmons. My thoughts are below.</p>
<p>MHC: great education yet it seems like it is too liberal arts focused for what I want to do. Also, it is so isolated and even when it was in school while I went, it was very quiet. Also, the students almost all walked alone, texting on their cell phones. I have never seen anything like it!</p>
<p>Simmons: great education as well. Additionally, I love how you can connect undergrad with graduate programs. Wonderful opportunities in Boston for jobs. Also, I loved the women there! They were very kind and sociable. I could easily see myself making friends here. I definitely felt at home.</p>
<p>Therefore my pick between the two is…
Simmons!</p>
<p>I remember that Simmons works for you better. Congrats for finding your fit school! I would like to add something for Moho though as people definitely do walk together most of the time and eat together. Maybe you visited during finals/a busy midterm week, during which it is hard for people in any college to have time for other things. In fact, I felt that I saw more “walking alone” people at Wellesley and Scripps, but not at Mount Holyoke and Smith.</p>
<p>Just found out I got into Simmons College with a Dean’s Scholarship! Thank you everyone for the advice previously.</p>
<p>Congratulations!</p>
<p>Great news. Congratulations!</p>