<p>So far Pton isnt looking too good in eyes and heres why
- overly snobbish and preppy atmosphere
-dorms suck ie have to up or down a few flight of stairs to go the bathroom+ crowded
-lets face it Pton, NJ is not a typical college town. It is a few streets of gingerbread houses around the campus. Typical suburbia mixed with mid atlantic snobbery - not a good combination. Plus , when you get to the highway there's nothing there. Just a gas station and some low income housing
-rationing of grades is completely unfair and unjust</p>
<p>WAAYYY too conservative for my blood. Ugh - Bill Frist went there</p>
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<li>in the multiple times I've visited, people have been nicer there than at any other ivy league school, definitely not stuck up or snobby and very willing to offer help and interest
-sure, some dorms aren't great, there are also dorms that are really nice (I've seen a few) and not all dorms require you to go up and down stairs to bathrooms; also, they're building new dorms as we type
-no, it's not a typical college town, but you're 50 min from nyc, nothing wrong with that, and maybe some people would rather be able to get into the city to watch ABT than be in a "typical college town"
-and you think grade inflation is really fair?</li>
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<p>Semp-
-The kids at Pton were the least snobby of any I met on my tour. They were more than willing, almost excited, to take some time out of their busy schedules to talk to a prospective student.
-Every campus has its "bad" dorms. In my opinion, walking up a flight of stairs is worth it to live on a campus with beautiful gothic buildings (even if I wasn't residing in one).
-I like Princeton, NJ because it isn't the typical college town - it IS definitely more like suburbia, with the gorgeous Victorian houses and the little shopping area right off campus. But that's why I like it - I don't want to go to school in a huge, sprawling college town (think Ann Arbor, MI), a city (New Haven or NY), or a rural area. The area right around campus is vaguely similar to the area I live in right now and I like it that way.
-If it's way too conservative "for your blood," then don't apply there! It's as easy as that. (Personally I like how it's not overly liberal - even if I wasn't a conservative, I think having a somewhat more balanced ideology on campus lends itself to more fulfilling political discussion.)</p>
<p>It sounds like Princeton isn't for you! But the same reasons you dislike it are a part of why I like it. That's a good thing - 10,000 students applying there makes it impossible enough to get into. Could you imagine if EVERYONE applied?</p>
<p>What schools are you looking at/applied to for college?</p>
<p>I disagree with most of what semiptern said.</p>
<p>Are there snobbish people at Princeton? Sure, but there are anywhere. Most people are really nice. </p>
<p>Is it preppy? Harder to refute...but do you want to judge a college by what people wear?</p>
<p>Some of the dorms here are amazing, especially upperclassmen dorms. I don't think crowding is a major issue. Of course some rooms are smaller than others, or some dorms built in the 60s/70s are not traditional collegiate gothic, but there will be dorm room disparities at any college. Oh, and my bathroom is right in my suite.</p>
<p>Most people spend 95% of their time on campus, except for athletic or extracurricular trips. You'll have an occasional meal on Nassau Street, and also go there for CVS/banks/etc. But you won't be hanging out in the residential areas of Princeton (the town)...and why would you want to? In any case it's green and safe. Would you prefer New Haven? Philadelphia? And who cares what Route 1 looks like? Princeton's campus is one of the best.</p>
<p>The anti-grade inflation plan does not consist of quotas, but of suggested proportions; its effect remains to be seen; and it does not in any way diminish the quality of education.</p>
<p>There are lots of liberals on campus. College Democrats has many members. Yes, there are conservatives, but they're the ones who feel outnumbered. And you may even engage a Republican in informed debate. It's very good to have a mix of political views on campus. </p>
<p>Regardless of your political leanings, you will thank Bill Frist when you're consuming the pizza from his campus center at 1 am.</p>
<p>thank you for your comments but I have visited Yale and thats where I will be applying. I just cant figure Princeton out. Usually when I go to a place I am able to discern certain intrinsic qualities but I just couldn't do that with Princeton. The only thing I saw(good) was that they have a motivated student body) other than that .... I don't know</p>
<p>Exactly. If you don't like it, fine. Doesn't look like you're applying there, which you shouldn't if you have so many issues with it. I personally find the quality of the student body at Princeton and its location to be advantages to the university, but it doesn't have to fly with everyone.</p>
<p>You really can't judge a book by it's cover. Some of the campuses we've visited all look alike: Lafayette; The College of New Jersey, and Wake Forest. They all resemble each other, yet each are unique in their own different ways. Wake Forest, by the way, had the UGLIEST dorms I've ever seen...no, wait...the dorms at the Honors Collge at UDel did.</p>
<p>As far as Princeton goes, it honestly reminded me a bit of Chapel Hill...which my d ended up not applying to, but I think that is a TERRIFFIC Campus.....and they bend over backward to get you to town, to the mall area and to the airport. If you went to Wake Forest, you would be stuck there....the same with Lafayette, unless you wanted to go down into the town but I think it could be dangerous.
Hopkins is great, and you have Baltimore in your backyard (almost). New Jersey is a very nice place....albeit you really need a car to get around....our kids were raised not even knowing how to cross a street....they walked out of the cul-de-sac to their bus stop and that magic bus took them to school.</p>
<p>If it sounds like I am rambling on, well, yes I am. Sorry. By the way, The College of New Jersey has the most incredible buildings and a beautiful campus...it is almost like being in Disney.</p>
<p>Sempitern555:
Your impression of Princeton is like the one I had before I actually started my fall semester. Perhaps you will realize one day, like I did, that that impression is rather wrong and presumptuous.</p>
<p>Edit:
Reading your past posts, it seems that you have a bias towards Princeton that certainly cannot come from just one visit. Your liberal inclination has somehow made you view Princeton as the anti-liberal Ivy, which is a pretty wrong notion considering the fact that liberals and the liberal faculty still dominate nearly all academic discussion, with the conservatives just making a lot of noise because their points are often easily refuted.</p>
<p>You also seem to think that Yale is supremely liberal. I can tell you that I thought so too, until I started talking to my friends at Yale. The case is that HYP all attract a fair share of conservative, Republican students because of the prestige, and wherever you go you will always meet snobby and preppy people, many of whom are not snobby. Even Yale has its snobs and Republicans, like it or not.</p>
<p>You need to look at schools with an open mind. Best of luck with Yale, but please refrain from your random Princeton bashing. It's honestly not going to get you anywhere due to the huge number of Princeton board regulars here, and you'll probably just make yourself look like an idiot when more Princeton students show up and refute your points.</p>