<p>Well I know as an Upper you can pick up a second language, history, science, or english. I’m either picking up Mandarin or Arabic.
I just don’t know how I’ll finish my art credits with these languages.</p>
<p>Yes, you can take up to 6 courses. To do this after freshman year you have to get on honor roll the term before or get special approval. </p>
<p>TIGER - You must finish a 300 level language class. After that it becomes an elective. Talk with your adviser about U.S. history since they tend to be stricter about who can pass out of that particular class.</p>
<p>Alright will do. I want to take Jap 500 and Latin as well. Can i take 2 languages my sophmore year? And I can only have up to 2 science courses?</p>
<p>"I want to take college physics, calc, AP chem, cellulr bio, and Macroeconomics for my sophmore year. If they wont let me take advanced courses then I’d just do the classes to finish my requirements just as sugerkim said asap. Once i do that I’ll take the classes I want to (: "</p>
<p>I’m just going to point out that even if they let you do that, you’d die 
Courses here aren’t like courses at other schools.</p>
<p>If anyone needs any help with schedule, advising, or anything, feel free to reply, or PM me!</p>
<p>I’m going to be an upper next year - be sure to say hi to me when you come! Just remember my username here, and it should be fairly evident who I am next year (unless we just have completely separate circles of friends). </p>
<p>Okay. So to answer some questions.</p>
<p>Can you take two languages? Yes. Do most people? No. </p>
<p>Can you have up to two science courses? Sophmore year, yes. You are allowed up to two courses per DEPARTMENT. That means the science DIVISION, and then the bio department, chem department, and physics department. I know a current senior who has tripled on a science. But don’t count on doing that. And certainly not sophmore year. </p>
<p>If you are curious, my schedule this year (as a new lower/sophomore), was:</p>
<p>Yearlongs:
Chinese 220
English 200</p>
<p>Fall:
Chemistry 550
Math 360
History 200</p>
<p>Winter:
Chemistry 300
Physical Education
Art 301 (Architecture)
Relphil 330</p>
<p>Spring (right now):
Math 580
Chem 300
Art 435</p>
<p>Add the yearlongs to each term.</p>
<p>And my schedule for next year:</p>
<p>Physics 550
Math 590
English 300
Chinese 520
Computer science 500
AP Music Sequence (400-540-550)</p>
<p>@SoontoBoard - you are allowed to take 6, but if your grades slip, your advisor may take you out of your 6th. as a new lower, you are required to take three terms total of art and music, with at least one in each. so either 2 and 1, or 1 and 2. I personally am taking two terms of art (already finished that), and I will be taking three terms of music next year (AP Music Theory).</p>
<p>I hope I’ve been helpful!</p>
<p>To get out of taking U.S. History (the standard upper year history course) you must pass a placement exam. It can be done. My daughter entered as a new upper having taken USH as a sophomore in our public school. She passed the test and took senior electives as an upper to complete the history requirements.</p>
<p>As for taking econ prior to senior year, that’s unlikely. There are few courses on the heavy enrollment list (usually restricted to seniors or a targeted demographic), but economics is always one of them. She tried to take it as one of her upper year replacements but it was full so she had the choice of taking other courses to complete the requirement right away or waiting a year.</p>
<p>BTW: Econ being popular is not a surprise. The Phillipian did a young alumni survey last year (students from the prior 5 years) and nearly 20% listed economics as a single or dual major in college. The mapping of econ to Ivy League was hardly perfect (there were far more Ivy Leaguers than econ), but I’ll bet there was a positive correlation.</p>
<p>Thanks, ksong12 and Padre13 for the good advice. I have two questions: 1. Assuming your grades can hold up, is it a good idea to take 6 courses every term? Is it common? 2. Is it hard to get in History 340 (modern european history) as a lower? The catalog says "This course is open to exceptional Lowers(determined via HQT results and with permission from the department chair) and to Uppers. ". What is HQT?</p>
<p>Six courses would be a heavy workload so I don’t think it’s common. It is possible, however. The student must have been on the honor roll the prior term (roughly the top 1/2) and petition for a sixth class. My daughter successfully petitioned one term but decided to stick with the regular load.</p>
<p>It’s easy to see the large number of courses and get excited about packing them into a schedule. However, don’t forget that while Andover may look like a small liberal arts college, it is still a secondary school. It should be a time of social as well as academic development, so building a schedule that requires dedicating every waking hour to study is not advisable. Colleges are perfectly happy seeing 5 courses on a PA transcript - and arguably will be more impressed with 5 at a very challenging level than 6 easier ones.</p>
<p>As for HQT I’m not familiar with the term, but if I had to guess it’s probably History Qualifying Test (i.e. placement test).</p>
<p>A final note: I’m pretty sure there was an article about History 340 in the Phillipian recently. The instructor that taught it for many years, and transitioned into it from another instructor that had similar tenure, is retiring. It’s not clear who will teach it in upcoming years or even when it will be offered.</p>
<p>are you sure about that, Padre? History 300 and 310 are graduation requirements. You can delay it until senior year though.</p>
<p>You may be talking about History 200. You can take the HQT (history qualifying test), to get out of that and take History 340 (AP European History) instead.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, that is NOT being offered this year due to the teacher retiring. </p>
<p>@watertester - if you can, sure, but you might want to stick with five more advnaced courses.</p>
<p>And as to your other question - don’t worry about it cuz you can’t do it anyway. </p>
<p>@Padre13 - you are correct, that article was indeed there, and it will NOT be offered for the 2009-2010 school year.</p>
<p>I am aware that History 340 will not be available in 2009. I am planning for next year. So the HQT is about History 200 then to test if you know the stuff covered in Hist 200?</p>
<p>Alright mbad I didnt know that econ was such a heavily enrolled course. Hey Ksong Why did u take AP chem then switch down to college chem? And if you take Precalc 350 or 360 sophmore year can u take calc in that same year? (like u jumping form Math 360 to math 500 +)</p>
<p>TIGER- Yes. A lot of kids take math 350, 360 and then start calc the same year. Two of the calc sequences are four terms and start spring term and then continue the next year. Others are three terms and start in the fall for students who prefer the more accelerated pace or want the room in their schedule.</p>
<p>The HQT is NOT about History 200. It is an analysis, logic, and other skills based test. There is no knowledge based stuff on there. </p>
<p>I switched out because I did poorly in Chem 550. Math 360 to 580 actually isn’t a jump, that’s the normal sequence. 360 is the end of the precalc sequence. So yes, you can take math 350 fall term, math 360 winter term, then math 580 spring term.</p>
<p>Math 580 is the beginning of the four term AP Calc BC sequence that runs from Spring of one year to Spring to the next. </p>
<p>Math 595 (formerly Math 600), is AP Calc BC in 3 terms instead of four and starts in the fall term running to spring.</p>
<p>Ok, can i take College Physics my sophmore year and double that up with Chem 550? while taking English 200 History of some sort, and Math 350 or 360. With my language as Japanese and Latin?</p>
<p>TIGER - You’ll have to talk to your adviser. They don’t usually let new students take 6 classes their first term. You’ll probably be able to do it upper year, but I wouldn’t overload yourself while adjusting to a new school.</p>
<p>Haha ok so would u recommend 5 classes?</p>
<p>Thank kson12 for the info about HQT. So it’s a school admistered test right? When do you take the test if you are interested, end of junior year or start of lower? And, do you think they will have History 340 next year? I thought that was an important course but maybe it’s not that popular among students?</p>
<p>ksong12,</p>
<p>If you’ve taken high school level U.S. History before entering PA you can take a placement test. Passing doesn’t reduce your graduation requirement as you replace USH with 400 level electives instead.</p>
<p>I agree with sugarkim - don’t overload yourself.</p>
<p>@watertester - the HQT is a school administered test, which you would take the day after orientation. But don’t worry about it, because you won’t have the opportunity to take it.</p>
<p>It was very popular (among the people who were elligible to take it), but we couldn’t find a teacher to teach it, and hiring a new one was not a viable option.</p>
<p>Padre13 - I wasn’t aware of that, but thanks for the info. I’ve never heard of someone who’s done that, and it certainly isn’t in the course of study (unless I missed something).</p>
<p>oh, so does that mean the juniors of this year will not have the option of taking Hist 340 as a lower assuming it’s available next year? The HQT is for the placement lowers to this course ONLY?</p>
<p>No. It is final. History 340 will NOT BE OFFERED next year.</p>
<p>If it were to be offered in a future year, or in previous years, those wishing to qualify for it would take it at the end of junior year, or during orientation if you are a new lower.</p>