<p>um...u actually do have lower stats than arts/sciences. The average SAT of arts/sciences is between 1330-1500 and CALS is it like a 1250-1430, thats a big difference.</p>
<p>what is engineering?</p>
<p>All the colleges are listed in these two documents: <a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_end.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_end.pdf</a>
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_con.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_con.pdf</a>
The middle 50% of SAT scores for Engineering is 1350-1510.</p>
<p>but the acceptance rate for arts/sciences is like 15 percent lower.</p>
<p>This just sounds like a big rumor to me. Cornell just plans to cast off its agreement with NYS, just like that? Cornell recieves tons of money from the state, especially in CALS. A lot of that money is going into those rennovations going on around the Ag Quad. Is Cornell willing to give that up? I don't think so.</p>
<p>I, personally, do not have lower stats than Arts and Sciences, but congratulations for being a jerk and incorrectly telling me that I do. I'm closer to the higher end of Arts and Sciences and am above the 75th percentile for Ag (according to your statistics). I was not referring to the entire school, I was talking about myself, but congrats on being obnoxious and misunderstand what I wrote ;).</p>
<p>should be misunderstanding :)</p>
<p>I think I'm aware and it was clearly a typo, but once again, thanks for being obnoxious. You should come pregame tomorrow, so I can tell you off in person :D...but your social graces suggest that you don't go out much.</p>
<p>But, seriously, transfer already. Try Chicago, rumor has it fun goes to die there.</p>
<p>For the sake of immaturity:</p>
<p>"so when is this happening....</p>
<p>and it makes perfect sense b/c remmeber that cornell announced it is going to allow students to apply to multiple schools, and now that makes sense."</p>
<p>should be remember :)</p>
<p>flame flame FLAME FLAME FLAME ;)</p>
<p>so yeah, two more of my friends talked about this issue when i asked them. I guess it was confirmed in the Daily Sun a while back. I need to find this article!!</p>
<p>They said that Cornell is losing alot of money from the contract.</p>
<p>"Land grant status" is a historical designation. The Morrill Land Grant Act was signed into law by Abraham Lincoln. Under the terms of the act, each state was given a grant of land that its legislature could sell; the proceeds were to go to higher education, at the discretion of the legislature. Ezra Cornell, who had made a fortune from a machine that buried telegraph cables, and had become a state legislator in New York, offered to match the proceeds of the land grant with his own money if the legislature allowed him to use the entire proceeds of the land grant with his matching money to start a new university "where anybody could study anything." A fellow legislator named Andrew White helped him get the plan enacted, and went on to the the first president of what became known as Cornell University. Cornell's idea for what type of university it would be was formalized into the university motto: "I would found an institution where any person can find instruction in any study."</p>
<p>My favorite Andrew White story: when the president of white's alma mater, the University of Michigan, proposed a football game between the two schools, White replied something like this: "I refuse to permit thirty young men to travel a thousand miles for the purpose of agitating a pig's bladder."</p>
<p>There was a time, many decades ago, when students who wished to transfer from statutory colleges to endowed colleges at Cornell had to pay the difference in tuition retroactively.</p>
<p>Hi Greybeard,</p>
<p>Small matter...A.D. White's alma mater is Yale. He was a professor at University of Michigan before starting Cornell with Ezra.</p>
<p>Wharf</p>
<p>Ah, yes. Didn't he also attend Union College for a little while?</p>
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18321918, American educator and diplomat, b. Homer, N.Y., briefly attended Geneva (now Hobart) College, grad. Yale, 1853. He studied in France and Germany, served (185455) as attaché in St. Petersburg, and toured Europe. While teaching history (185763) at the Univ. of Michigan, he developed the idea of a university detached from all sects and parties and free to pursue truth without deference to dogma. After his father died (1860) he returned (1863) to New York a comparatively rich man. He sat (186467) in the New York state senate and was chairman of the education committee, which dealt with the founding of a land-grant college. With the financial aid of a fellow senator, Ezra Cornell, the land grant was made available for the institution that became Cornell Univ. White, as first president (186785), expanded the institution to teach not only agriculture and mechanical arts but also other fields of knowledge. He was one of the first educators to use the system of free elective studies. As Cornell was nonsectarian, the charge of godlessness was made against it.
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<p>In 1843 Ezra Cornell was a traveling salesman trying to sell plows. He met F.O.J. Smith and S.F.B. Morse in Maine while he was there. They had a contract for laying underground cable of wires between Baltimore and Washington to test Morse's Telegraph invention. . . . Smith asked Cornell to help them and Cornell came up with a plow that would bury the pipe and cables in it.
From Cornell University founders and the Founding by Carl L. Becker page 51-52
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The plow worked admirably, but with some ten miles of pipe laid it was found that, on account of defective insulation, all the work sofar was a wasted effort. To let this be known would prejudice the entire undertaking, and make it difficult to obtain additional appropriations from Congress; and one day Professor Morse, in great distress, called Ezra from his plow to ask him if he could suggest any way of suspending operations without giving the true reason. Ezra's ingenuity made little of so slight a difficulty. Stepping back to the plow, he directed the teamsters to start up the mules; and watching for an opportunity, with simulated clumsiness canted the point of the plow into a ledge of rock and broke it to pieces. The next day it was reported in the newspapers that on accound of this "unfortunate accident' the work would have to be suspended for a few weeks. The weeks dragged on while Professor Morse and Alfred Vail and F.O.J. Smith experimented with other methods of insulating the wires in the pipe. Meantime, Ezra spent his spare time boning up on electricity, and came to the conclusion that the simplest and cheapest way would be to abandon the underground system altogeather and string the wires seperately on poles, insuluating them at the cross bars by wrapping them around glass knobs . . . .
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Having devised the method of stringing wires on poles, he entered into line construction in the East and the Midwest. He was founder, director, and for a time the largest stockholder of the Western Union Telegraph Company, which was formed in 1855 to end cutthroat competition in the field.
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<a href="http://www.bartleby.com/65/co/CornellE.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.bartleby.com/65/co/CornellE.html</a></p>
<p>Ezra Cornell and Andrew D White were both New York State Senators. They were able to get the NY State Legislature to make Cornell the Land Grant College of the State of NY. I think it's highly unlikely that NY State will abandon the close association it has had with Cornell since its' beginning.
<a href="http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm</a></p>
<p>About the original rumor:
<a href="http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1133240400%5B/url%5D">http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1133240400</a></p>
<p>interesting. I guess. Call me stupid, but is he saying "no, cornell will not be entirely privately funded" or "no, the decision to allow applicants to apply to more than one school has nothing to do with Cornell's relationship with NY state." I'm assuming the former, hoping the latter.</p>
<p>I interpreted it as the former, with the rest of the response just some good PR-ness that Ezra likes to add in whenever.</p>