So I shotgunned.. what's the big deal?

@epiphany @jym626 Sorry! Was on the elliptical myself :). I thought E was agreeing with J and was apparently on the right track except for my sexist default gender assumption and I’m sorry for that!!! :slight_smile:

“Now for sure we will be considered subhuman compared to the poser.”

Or, horrors, “salty,” LOL.

You’re forgiven, fretfulmother. :smiley:

Ack! I was meaning to respond to the OP, not you, epiph, in post 408 when I said lying should not be necessary. Sorry to confuse., Will stop trying to do 3 things at once. At least for now. Am going to play with my new under desk pedaler and try not to read and type at the same time.

@jym626‌ I already spoke on the ridiculousness of the “all-seeing eye” mentality earlier in the thread.

“I’m not going to bother trying to understand that convoluted exchange between jym and epiphany, and I think it’s time for me to retire from this thread until results come in.”

Great idea. Ditto for your salty recruit, as well. =;

I am inclined to believe that the OP is striving to live up to his screen name. I dare not use a specific appellation to describe him. If he is who and what he pretends to be, he might well get into a top college, but there are several major strikes against him. First and foremost would apply to the private colleges: from all he has presented here, I imagine that teacher and counselor recommendations will be less than glowing. Letters of recommendation cannot get you accepted, but they can surely get you rejected. Let’s say that several of his classmates are also applying to the same colleges. They might not all have “shotgunned,” but - among the top ten prospects, for instance - they probably overlapped. He might have the highest test scores, but if they all have stronger GPAs, ECs, and enthusiastic recommendations, the colleges will take his rivals in most cases. The very topmost tier don’t have to worry about aggregate stats; they will always have them. If the OP is as arrogant in reality as he indicates he is here, his best prospects are at large public universities that don’t accept letters of recommendation or conduct interviews. I think the main question on April 1st will come down to whether his choices are any better than they would have been had he applied to one-half or one-third as many colleges. My own son applied to fifteen colleges, and I thought he could have pared the list down. Five of those had free applications, though, and he applied to three UCs (thereby limiting the work).

I haven’t seen OP display any more arrogance than is warranted by his stats and the state of top-tier admissions.

If he believes that he did his best on his essays, then so be it. We have no way to validate or deny that claim.

If he wants to shotgun and play the randomness in the process, then so be it; it clearly exists to some extent, and the OP is not risking anything by embracing it in the best way that he sees fit.

At the end of the day, the CC adults can put on their condescension pants and rattle off stories of their children, but they are equally as irrelevant to his situation as are his own opinions about the admissions process.

Now let’s leave this thread alone until decisions come out. It’s hard to argue the premise without any hint of the conclusion.

I’m just confused on what OP lied about. What exactly did he lie about that ticked you guys off?

@IAmTheGoat,

As I read this thread, OP did not “lie” in the sense that he fabricated activities, scores, grades, leadership positions, etc. He exaggerated or completely fabricated/feigned interest in things for which he either (1) has no interest, or (2) doesn’t care enough to have an interest.

He modified these “fake” interests in his essays depending on the target school. He researched what he believed each school was looking for, and tailored his essays to make it appear as though he was a match, interests-wise, to that particular school.

As I see it (assuming OP actually did this), he has turned himself into an experiment. It is a dangerous experiment because, if schools see through his ploy, he will be rejected. It is dangerous because, if he had honestly represented himself and his interests in his apps, presumably his essays would have captured the essence of genuineness and passion that might otherwise be lacking in his essays, and perhaps one or more of these schools might have considered him.

I would be very afraid if one of my own kids did this because I want them to find “fit” schools for themselves; to find a “fit” school means one must represent him/herself honestly and capture the interest of a school that sees him/her as a good candidate.

On the other hand, OP is willing to see if his methods will gain him entrance into a “top” university; match be damned, he wants the name alone. I do not criticize him for his experiment at all, and I will not pass judgment. If he is willing to put himself in this position, it is nothing to me! I am, however, extremely curious to see if it works. And if it does work, will OP actually be happy at a school that took him on false pretenses - will he fit in with the other kids in reality? Maybe so, maybe not.

Anyway, as others have suggested, the whole thing could be made up. And even if it isn’t made up, we may never know the true results on this anonymous board.

First of all, I can’t believe there are still people nagging OP about financial aid. Did he not make it clear that he doesn’t wish to talk more about the subject? Why does it keep becoming the subject of debate. I see intparent keep bringing it up.

Secondly, @CaliCash‌ “you won’t get into Harvard, your GPA is too low”. Do you realize what you just said? Read it once again. So there aren’t any applicants that get accepted with a low GPA? And no, not all are hooked. For I have a friend who applied on a whim to Uchicago (and to his awe, got accepted). His stats were nothing outstanding and you can already imagine the passion (or lack thereof) he showed in the essays because he applied on a whim. So did I, to a few reaches, having no realistic expectations of acceptance but some people just do win the lottery. College admissions can be funny.

@prospect1 Thank you. Now, I am not targeting you here. Just going to shoot a few criticisms to the people who are saying what OP did is wrong (by feigning his interest).

His goal: get accepted to as many places as he can get into so he can keep his options open. He needs to make himself at least seem like a fit for the colleges, then. Otherwise, what would be the point of applying to so many to keep the options open–the colleges would reject him simply on the basis that he isn’t a fit. In order to avoid that, he simply must pretend to fit into each individual college. Of course, some may argue that he has to show his own personality in he essays to draw attention to his favorable traits, etc. If he did the homework to research specific things about each college, then he must’ve known to talk about himself, too. So, that’s a given.

I dont understand why people are picking this apart. OP obviously worked hard throughout high school, both in and out of the classroom. What he is doing is just making himself a good first impression with tree essays. In this case, making a good first impression may very well include writing about different interests fit different colleges.

Additionally, some people have brought up the honor code. This honor code doesnt tell you or require that you must go by one ideology. Fir example, columbia has a core curriculum, and brown has an open one. For someone to say different things for each of the colleges does not make them wrong or bad. It just means hat the person is letting the college know what the person likes (that doesn’t have to be the only thing the person likes. Maybe the person likes a different aspect of something completely opposite).

I think this thread has run its course. Discussion can resume once admissions decisions have been made.