<p>i would go to irvine because its hard to get into ucla and berkley even when your a transfer student. im not saying you cant but if i had the chance i would go to irvine. dont let all that prestige **** fool you mate. your gonna learn no matter where you go, but go to cc if you really want to go to ucla</p>
<p>I think you should attend ccc because obviously you hesitate to go to UCI </p>
<p>and if your dream is to attend UCB, UCLA then it's better to go to ccc. You will have more chance of getting into UCB, UCLA and you can also apply to UCI again too. Since you get into UCI as a freshman, I think you will have no problem getting into it as a transfer student. :)</p>
<p>I would recommend going to UCI. If you get there and find you aren't happy with it for some reason, transferring shouldn't be a problem if you get awesome grades.</p>
<p>And if you don't get awesome grades, then there's really no reason for you to be transferring.</p>
<p>So its not gonna be a problem if I have good grades? Cool, thanks.</p>
<p>You may find that transferring isn't really neccessary.</p>
<p>Either way, if you can't do good enough at Irvine to impress the admissions officers at Berkeley, then Berkeley probably isn't the place for you anyways. Everyone ends up where they belong, it's just a matter of finding out where that is.</p>
<p>Eirenarch, You're a friggin genius!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Good point. I over exaggerated on the genius.</p>
<p>But is there anything else I should keep in mind? Such as lots of ECs, LORs, etc? I heard that UC-UC transfer is basically the same as any other transfer from another 4 year institution.</p>
<p>"1) Man up and join the military, earn the GI Bill and pay for college yourself (what I did, and I get $1100 in my bank account every single month like clockwork up to $39k)"</p>
<p>that may be the dumbest thing ive read here. id stay the hell away from the military. and what does "manning up" have anything to joining the armed forces.</p>
<p>this coming from the obese overly tight shirt wearing, trendy glasses and plugs in his ears "Man", whats considered manning up to you? mall lurking, and forum bashing everything you see? Joining the military is manning up since man decided they could fight another man. honestly what is wrong with you moscow?</p>
<p>Comrade Moscow,</p>
<p>When I said "man up", I meant more along the lines of grow up, show some courage, sever the ties of your parents taking care of you, and take care of yourself.</p>
<p>But now that you point it out, joining does take a special kind of person with a tremendous amount of guts. Someone like you will never in your life be able to understand the reasons behind joining, or the thought process that goes into such a decision, and I'm sure you'll probably continue to look down your elitist snob nose at people who decide on such a route. After all, they're just brainwashed idiots right?</p>
<p>This is the last I'll say on the matter in this thread. I won't be replying further. I'm not going to let this discussion devolve into an e-argument with the typical "know it all" (who really knows nothing) college student. However, I am more than happy to continue the discussion with you via private message.</p>
<p>Metalhedd165 - I would recommend that you go to the CCC and transfer to UCLA or UCB. It's really not that hard to get in as a CCC transfer. You could do TAP with 3.5 GPA and you will be pretty much guaranteed admission into UCLA. Or you could go the non-TAP route and with a 3.8+ you will be accepted into UCLA and CAL.</p>
<p>Considering the military, there are pros and cons with going that route. I am a former Marine myself. After HS, I didn't want to go to college because I wasn't ready. Therefore, I joined the military to get the GI Bill for the education $. The way it works is, the first year, you get $100 deducted from your pay for investing money into the GI Bill. You can pay up to $1200 that way, which will net you ~$1100. Then you can also do the GI Bill kicker, which you then pay an extra $600. With the kicker, you will receive $1251. After 2 years of active duty, you will then be able to withdraw money from the GI Bill. There are a total of 36 months of benefits. 12X$1251 = $45,036. </p>
<p>Along with money from the GI Bill, you also make a decent living in the military. If you live on base, your room and board is paid for by the government. It's not hard to save up $500-1000 a month while you're active duty for 4 years. I'll give that a conservative average of $600 for 48 months. 48 X $600 = $28,800.</p>
<p>So in total you will have $73,836 at your disposal for college. Please note that the GI Bill is received monthly and not a lump sump of $45k. You will build your credit in those 4 years, so you could take out bigger loans with lower interest if needed. Also, being a veteran, you will not have to pay tuition for a CCC because of the Government Fee Waiver. The financial aid office may tell you that you do not qualify because of your income, but if you file the FAFSA and check the box for Veteran, then you will be eligible for the fee waiver.
<a href="http://www.mjc.edu/financialaid/0708forms/0708%20Fee%20Waiver%20Application.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.mjc.edu/financialaid/0708forms/0708%20Fee%20Waiver%20Application.pdf</a></p>
<p>Some of the cons that I can think of is: This isn't the traditional route, but neither is going to a CCC. You will be 4 years behind your peers in terms of education, but if you choose an occupational field in the military that supports your major, you will have 4 years of work experience which will be valuable in a resume. The military isn't for everyone. However, if that's the case, join the Air Force. They are the most relaxed service.</p>
<p>metalhedd165, have you considered appealing UCLA and Cal's decisions on your rejection? I had several friends back in high school that went through the appeal process and they managed to get admitted after the initial rejection.</p>