<p>I'm in HK. The universities here, even Hong Kong University, Chinese University and HK Univeristy of Science & Technology, are poor at science/engineering. And admission is way too competitive for an average college education. Plus, my Chinese sucks. So that's why US universities are much better.</p>
<p>whats the average SAT scores required for admission to UToronto, McGill, Waterloo, and york? Do they offer any type of financial aid...????</p>
<p>Nope, I don't know about average SAT scores for UT, McGill, Waterloo or York. Their websites might have it. I'm pondering whether to send the scores, anyway, and rely on my GPA and IB scores. </p>
<p>I'm unsure whether they offer international financial need-aid. I think they may have scholarships, but again, unsure. Probably should scrounge their websites.</p>
<p>UT, McGill, Waterloo and all the rest are jokes in admission compared to ivy leagues.. like seriously, if you have a GPA percent of 90+, you are almost guaranteed in. No stupid essays/standardizetests/recommendations</p>
<p>yes they all have scholarships. I applied for the top UT one, that gives free admission for 4 years.</p>
<p>they're not jokes. they're in a different country altogether.</p>
<p>any idea of avg SAT scores required for colleges like Utoronto, Waterloo and McGill....????</p>
<p>I'm looking into applying to U of Toronto, and McGill too.
I was expecting no scholarship, but I guess I can apply for them even as an international??</p>
<p>BTW, UT website is SOOOO complicated!</p>
<p>yes, UT's website is very complicated.
One must have an ID on their site.</p>
<p>oh god sure come here and whap at your home countries. i absolutely hate people who do this. i understand if u believe that the education in america has far more to offer than your home country as it is after all more established and a world super power. but that does make it any better that u would hide behind the mask of online annonymity and take random bashes at your own country. ugh, it makes me ill.</p>
<p>I agree with u lefay8 :)
I love my country, India... :) INDIA IS GREAT :)</p>
<p>Well as a Korean Canadian...
for me to go to a Korean school... it's pretty useless to go to school there unless I'm gonna live there.
For Canadian schools... they are great and all, but you don't feel rewarding when you get accepted at those universities. If you get 90+ average on your core academics, you are going to get accepted. That's just the way it is. Also, Canadian schools don't require SAT's... and I think McGill is the one that requires SAT scores for the American students trying to go to Mcgill. Neways, Canadian schools arent harvard or nething, but they ARE great schools. I personally like Queens:D</p>
<p>lefay8:
It's one thing to explain why the education in your home country isn't ideal for you or why you want to explore other possibilities. It's another thing to bash your country. It's not logical to bind these two together and treat them as the same thing.</p>
<p>And since I know you already have a grudge against me, the political situation here in Malaysia isn't very...welcoming of non-Malays. You might want to see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketuanan_Melayu%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketuanan_Melayu</a> which explains this relatively new philosophy that disenfranchises non-Malays (and has already seeped into the school system - the form 3 and form 5 history textbooks spend quite a bit expounding on it). Combined with the rather unfair matriculation system here, it's not hard to see why I wouldn't be leaping at the chance to study here. <a href="http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com%5B/url%5D">http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com</a> is a rather professional blog you might be interested in.</p>
<p>yupe....aren't you the one who edited the article on ketuanan melayu?</p>
<p>I sense that you are afraid to take form 4 & 5 as a challenge and as nickkhaw puts it, 'running away from something difficult, opting for something easier'. You may argue that why choose something tough when you can have something easier, well in that case you will be running all your life if you meet something difficult and choose the path that is easy even though the path is wrong simply because it is easy. </p>
<p>You are still young and you may not really have encountered the real issue, even if you have your prefrontal lobes are really developed yet, which means what you perceive and what you think is largely influenced by foreign sources and emotion, so give some time, chill out, don't act emotionally. You will begin to filter the information in a few years time.</p>
<p>I would generally prefer Oxbridge for undergraduate studies</p>
<p>I view this as a false dichotomy, elmy. Just because something is easier does not make it any less "right". If anything, it could be considered more difficult. My family will have to shell out a substantial amount of money in examination fees for the O Levels, and even more money for the college fees. I will lose all my old friends from school. I will also be losing the safe and comforting assurance of knowing what to expect - school does not change much from year to year, exam to exam, while attending college will be something totally different.</p>
<p>Just because a challenge exists does not mean it should be conquered by everyone. Different people take different routes in life. Many have made it through the flawed system to Oxbridge and Harvard. I respect that. But, well, different strokes for different folks, eh?</p>
<p>I thought you said you didn't have friends.....</p>
<p>From what you have written in another post, I observed that you have an inclination or a tendency towards the easy path. </p>
<p>Quote, "Well, yes, but I see no point in working with a seriously flawed system if I can avoid it. If you have to use it, by all means, go ahead. But if there are other routes available to you, why make life difficult for yourself?"</p>
<p>I am aware that whether an action is right or wrong is not dictated by the difficulty to carry out that action. This is not the case which I wish to point out. With reference to what you have said,I was saying that you will always seek the easy way out when you are facing an issue even though when the path you are about to take is wrong. You can't always do that in life.</p>
<p>You may chooose not to take form 4 and form 5 but you can't generalise like what you did in your numerous post by impliying something similar to 'phailed beyond recognition'</p>
<p>I must agree that you are a flair in langauge; if the system does not work for you, then make sure you are home-schooled.</p>
<p>Oxbridge is better in one sense because you get tutored by the experts....you will get to know them at a personally level. It is totally the opposite in the US, where you will most likely be taught by graduate students.</p>
<p>I didn't have many friends in school, but yes, I have friends. :) While I understand your concern that I might end up always opting for the easy way out, I don't think I am of that character. I tend to veer from path to path - if anything, I worry I am too indecisive. (Yes, I'm rarely sure whether I will end up taking the easy highway or the hard dirt road.) If I always opted for the easy way out, though, I'd probably have tried to conform to the social norms of my classmates and spend most of my time playing Digimon (when it was in vogue), Pokemon cards (which might still be in vogue; I honestly don't know nor care) or FPS computer games. After all, that would be the easy way to avoid ostracisation and make me more comfortable among my peers.</p>
<p>I was effectively homeschooled for my O Levels, because I can't stand snobbish private schools and my family isn't rich enough to afford such schools (not to mention all the trouble of going through the paperwork for a school transfer, etc.). My parents insisted I at least attend college for A Levels, though - they're worried my status as an introvert will be worsened by learning at home for a year or two.</p>
<p>(By the way, what does "phailed beyond recognition" refer to? I don't recall posting anything along the lines of "failed beyond recognition" - I'm not even sure what that means.)</p>
<p>you could have joined Stella Maris....a private mission school.....in fact the cheapest private school in the country. They have great teachers, they teach in BM and english simultaneously.</p>
<p>What subjects do you intend to take for your A-levels?</p>
<p>From what you have written, one can see that your feelings towards the education system is similar to the feeling when something is phailed beyond recognition....in other world, beyond salvation</p>
<p>Stella Maris? Sorry...never heard of it. :( I'll be studying Economics, Mathematics, English Literature and History for my A-Levels. And I'm not sure what "phailed beyond recognition" implies...I've never seen the word "phailed" before (do you mean "failed"?) and I'm not sure [url=<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=recognition%5D%22recognition%22%5B/url">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=recognition]"recognition"[/url</a>] is the word you mean to use. Do you mean "failed beyond hope of recovery"?</p>
<p>phailed simply means failed.....it looks nicer</p>
<p>'phailed beyond recognition' poetic licence. When someone is multilated so badly, it is beyond recognition, it cannot recover without artificial aid. Similarly, the system is so bad that everything it produces is horrible.</p>