<p>I read somewhere here that an attender of Penn Preview days noticed a social hierarchy already developing, with Wharton kids being on top.</p>
<p>Is this true? I was already slightly reluctant in attending Penn because of the banking/consulting/finance domination of Wharton, which is what I want to do as a career (I'm a prospective college econ major).</p>
<p>Any words on the social scene? Is this complete ********?</p>
<p>Kids at Wharton will look down upon everyone. But I think that only lasts during the first year. Still, alums from my school in CAS were quite annoyed by it. </p>
<p>Generally, Wharton’s a very tight-knit community. CAS, not so much.</p>
<p>^ That’s all that I’ve been told by current freshmen there.</p>
<p>Take it from someone who has been at Penn for two years: that is complete BS.</p>
<p>I’ll repost what I just posted on a different thread:
I’m in Wharton, and: my best friend is in engineering, nearly a third of the people in my business frat (who I’m really close with) are in engineering/college, all of the people I work with at the paper <em>aren’t</em> in Wharton, one guy I almost dated and one I <em>kind</em> of dated (I’ll let you figure that one out) were in the college…I could go on and on and on.</p>
<p>^ Nobody cares about who you hooked up with. Geez. And your points don’t stand up to the fact that 90% of the threads on the Penn forum are about transferring into Wharton!</p>
<p>There’s a superiority hierarchy at Stanford too, with the Engineers and Computer-Science majors feeling superior to everyone else. But it isn’t institutionalized like at Penn. And that is why Penn would be a really ****ty place to go if you’re in CAS or SEAS.</p>
<p>I personally wouldn’t want to go to a College where I’d be constantly stressing about transferring into the more prestigious department.</p>
<p>You don’t even go to Penn though…^^</p>
<p>PrincetonDreams, I don’t know why you insist on hanging around the Penn forum trying to convince everyone that Penn is a terrible place. You don’t have any firsthand experience and therefore shouldn’t try to give advice, because it will all be at least secondhand and likely inaccurate (as this is).</p>
<p>Also, it’s definitely untrue that “90% of the threads on the Penn forum are about transferring into Wharton” (hyperbole only works occasionally, you know, and not generally in arguments where the facts really matter) and very few of my non-Wharton friends want to transfer into Wharton.
Are a greater percentage (than the actual number of Wharton to non-Wharton kids) of my friends in Wharton? Yes, but that’s because I take required classes that all Wharton kids are required to take, so I have more exposure. It doesn’t mean I, or any of my Wharton friends, feel superior to non-Wharton kids or avoid them or don’t try to hang out with them or whatever you’re arguing.
Also, it’s kind of ridiculous how the only thing you took from what I said is that I was hooking up with someone. Not the point, not the main feature or example, geez.</p>
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<p>Which is why my advice is unbiased.</p>
<p>It’s not unbiased - it’s uninformed. You can’t give advice on things you don’t know. Just accept it and stop trying to justify yourself. Go do something fun instead of hanging around CC (only reason I’m here is because I got stuck in Florida thanks to Mother Nature and am insanely bored/don’t know anyone here, otherwise I would be at Penn enjoying the amazing thing known as FLING).</p>
<p>^ It’s raining outside. : ( I hate living in the UK.</p>
<p>Anyways, to sum up: Don’t go to Penn unless you want to spend your four years being treated like a second class citizen.</p>
<p>As much as I would love to continue this…I’ll leave this thread with two things.</p>
<p>One, a comment: I’m sure the OP is intelligent enough to decide what to base his/her opinion on.</p>
<p>Two: [xkcd:</a> Duty Calls](<a href=“http://xkcd.com/386/]xkcd:”>xkcd: Duty Calls)</p>
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<p>Looks like PrincetonDreams could become Stanford’s nightmare. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Really, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, and your eagerness to continually spout uninformed efflutent is worthy of neither Princeton NOR Stanford (nor any semi-intelligent high school student, for that matter).</p>
<p>There are tons of events/press releases etc. at Penn that highlight the work of students in the College. I read about the research being done by students in the college all the time around campus. There are also many community outreach projects.
I have not been treated as a second class citizen by my Wharton classmates, often they are the first to acknowledgment admiration for science and engineering majors. A lot of Wharton people I know think science majors are actually more impressive than doing business.
This is coming from someone who really has no interest in business and has never taken an econ or business related class. Having Wharton around doesn’t change that. Penn has so many other things to offer that I have other things to keep me busy.</p>
<p>Well I definitely was set on Penn and still am, although that bold statement above affects me a little.</p>
<p>And yet I realize Princetondreams, you don’t go to Penn, have never been to Penn, and so on. How can you make such a bold, defining statement statement?</p>
<p>Poeme, I will be an econ major interested in business–same career aspirations as Whartonites. Does that affect anything?</p>
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<p>If you’re a female interested in Med-school, being in CAS wouldn’t put you lower on the social hierarchy. It makes sense for you to be in CAS. If you’re a guy interested in business, not so much. </p>
<p>It’s actually rather complicated.</p>
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<p>Good one. :)</p>
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<p>Um, yeah. You’ll always be asked why you aren’t in Wharton. Is that something you should be concerned about? Depends. It would certainly annoy me.</p>
<p>Here’s a WSO thread where Rutgers is offered as a better alternative to Penn CAS, since Whartonites dominate the recruiting there. [Upenn</a> Econ or Rutgers Undergraduate | WallStreetOasis.com](<a href=“http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/upenn-econ-or-rutgers-undergraduate]Upenn”>Upenn Econ or Rutgers Undergraduate | Wall Street Oasis)</p>
<p>I’m a Wharton freshman right now, and I don’t notice any social hierarchy with Wharton at the top. There are some funny jokes that people make about each school (Nursing is invisible - there’s only a hundred people in each class, the College is referred to as the College of Arts and Crafts, Wharton kids have no souls, engineers have no lives because they spend so many hours in class, etc), but it’s just poking fun. Obviously many engineers have lives, many Wharton kids are nice people, and many majors in the College are probably more difficult than a Wharton degree (to be honest, I only know one nurse). I’m mostly friends with College and Engineering students, even though I obviously do my problem sets with other Wharton students.</p>
<p>And I don’t know why someone who doesn’t go here is answering questions as if they’re the authority on Penn.</p>
<p>^ Because there’s nothing interesting on the Stanford forum. And because there is far too much misinformation here.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/264307-cas-penn-worth.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/264307-cas-penn-worth.html</a></p>
<p>488140, </p>
<p>Instead of paying any attention to what PrincetonDreams (a blow-hard high schooler with no relevant knowledge of Penn) has to say, you may want to scan through the Career Plan Survey Reports of the College to see actual data on how College Econ majors fare:</p>
<p>[Career</a> Services, University of Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/undergrad/reports.html]Career”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/undergrad/reports.html)</p>
<p>Also, there are numerous threads in the Penn forum on CC discussing and detailing how well College Econ majors do in job placement (they do VERY well).</p>
<p>^ Some of the CAS Econ majors with the nice jobs are ones who did a dual-degree with Wharton. Notice how the Survey doesn’t make a distinction between dual-Whartonites and single-CAS’s?</p>
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<p>From my experience (one MBB internship and a BB one this summer), Penn CAS kids fall way behind MIT, Columbia, Yale, Dartmouth and Duke, i.e the Tier-2 schools, in placement. There’s really no comparison. Penn CAS and SEAS are in Tier-3 with Berkeley, Georgetown and the like.</p>