Some interesting stats that make me laugh

<p>Class of 2004 at Andover</p>

<p>5.84% of the class went to Harvard
11.68% of the class went to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton
15.12% of the class went to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, or MIT
27.49% of the class went to an Ivy
33.68% of the class went to an Ivy, Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Stanford, or MIT</p>

<p>Top destinations:</p>

<p>Harvard - 17
Brown - 15
Yale - 10
Columbia - 10
Cornell - 9
Johns Hopkins - 9
NYU - 9
Northwestern - 8
UPenn - 8
Princeton - 7
MIT - 7
Georgetwon - 7</p>

<p>Comparing this to my public high school, I just have to laugh.</p>

<p>So I can deduce "only" 3 went to stanford. :( and 4 went to Dartmouth (the unnamed least favorite ivy)</p>

<p>class size = 291</p>

<p>can you imagine going to a school where the three most popular destinations are Harvard, Brown, and Yale...so much pressure!</p>

<p>As NJres pointed out, only 3 went to Stanford (vs H:17, Y: 10, P:7, M:7). I am interested in possible reasons for it. I suppose a lot of students were admitted to both Stanford and other top schools. Is it due to geographic reason? Do students and parents in NE private schools regard Stanford not as desirable as other top schools for non-geographic reasons?</p>

<p>Harvard-17
Brown-15
Yale-10
Columbia-10
Cornell-9
Johns Hopkins-9
New York University-9
Northwestern-8
UPenn-8
Princeton-7
MIT-7
Georgetown-7
Bates-6
Boston College-5
University of Chicago-5
Trinity College-5
Wellesley-5
Wesleyan-5
Colby-4
Dartmouth-4
George Washington-4
Amherst-3
American-3
Boston University-3
Berkeley-3
Duke-3
University of Michigan-3
Skidmore-3
Stanford-3
Tufts-3
Vanderbilt-3
William and Mary-3
Williams-3</p>

<p>What kind of school is this? It's rediculous that schools like Harvard, Brown, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, JHU, etc are accepting more than 3 students form the same school.</p>

<p>That kind of school is private college prep. They groom you from application to application in the proper way to present yourself and achieve your best. You apply to their highly selective boarding/day program (sometimes more competitive than the Ivies they send so many to!), then are admitted and get all the benefits money can buy: small class sizes, eclectic and often expensive ECs, a college counselor with a low student load (and the benefit of a counselor who is often on the inside with these Ivies' admissions counselors), SAT tutoring, and so on.</p>

<p>asdf, you've never heard of Andover? It's the most prestigious prep in the us, possibly the world</p>

<p>didn't GW attend? ( and his daddy?)
we have friends who are legacies at andover also- but they opted to send their kids somewhere else- just as with the Ivies- prestige aint everthin!</p>

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As NJres pointed out, only 3 went to Stanford (vs H:17, Y: 10, P:7, M:7). I am interested in possible reasons for it. I suppose a lot of students were admitted to both Stanford and other top schools. Is it due to geographic reason? Do students and parents in NE private schools regard Stanford not as desirable as other top schools for non-geographic reasons?

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There are several things going on:
Many of the kids attending this school are HYP legacies. So they matriculate according to family preference (whether explicit or just because they've been attending college reunions from an early age).</p>

<p>Stanford is very well regarded in the Eastern prep world, just viewed as more of an "exotic".</p>

<p>Andover's number are impressive, but neither surprising or unique. I think that a number of college preparatory high schools might show similar numbers. </p>

<p>For instance, St Mark's School of Dallas in Texas has the following statistics -according to Enco's distribution: </p>

<p>Matriculating at Harvard 6.33% or 5/79
Matriculating at Harvard, Yale, Princeton 15.19% or 12/79
Matriculatig at HYPSM 17.72% or 14/79
Matriculating at one of eight Ivies 25.32% or 20/79</p>

<p>In addition several students decided to forego admissions at HYPS to accept prestigious full merit scholarships such as the Morehead at UNC (EAdad's son). Adding those students would add a few basis points to the numbers. </p>

<p>Top destinations:
Yale University - 6
Harvard University - 5
University of Texas-Austin - 4
Dartmouth College - 3
University of Colorado-Boulder - 3
University of Pennsylvania - 3
Carnegie Mellon Univ - 2
Duke University - 2
Emory University - 2
George Washington Univ - 2
Georgetown University - 2
New York University - 2
Rice University - 2
Texas A & M Univ - 2
University of Texas-Dallas - 2
Vanderbilt University - 2</p>

<p>For a full list of matriculations, see:
<a href="http://www.smtexas.org/campus/counseling/matriculation.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.smtexas.org/campus/counseling/matriculation.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>By comparison, at my high school:</p>

<p>Harvard = 0%
HYP = 0.2272%
HYPSM = 0.2272%
One Ivy = 0.6818%
One Ivy, Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore = .91%</p>

<p>Yes, Out of 405 students
.002% harvard (1 student actually)
Yep, no one else even in the us news top 20. The glory of public schools. :p</p>

<p>While it may not seem so on this board, life is GOOD outside of HYPS...school is fun, but not determinative of success.</p>

<p>let's see this year, 2 Harvard, 3 Princeton, 1 Yale, 2 Stanford, 4 MIT...
it's cuz the 2005 class is wicked smart this year...at least at my humble public school. i have a feeling my class will be a letdown..haha</p>

<p>i don't even know about the other schools cuz the school stopped posting everywhere that ppl got into...ugh.</p>

<p>I deeply respect Andover for its accomplishments, it's an excellent preparatory school. While my own high school isn't as well-known as Andover, it's had a good track record. At my school this year alone, roughly 60 out of 300 students have been accepted by Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Stanford, Columbia, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Cornell, Chicago, UC Berkeley, and Georgetown. However, including the number of students wait-listed at these schools, the number would roughly equate to 90-100 students.</p>

<p>well andover is small so also take that into account</p>

<p>zetsui: Both Andover and my own high school roughly have the same number of students. Nevertheless, Andover's acceptance rate at Ivy League schools is substantially higher than my own high school's.</p>

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<p>This is a school -- one of maybe 15 in the country that could be roughly compared to it -- that concentrates talent like nobody's business. It seeks gifted kids from throughout the country and world, just like the Ivies do. Colleges would be foolish to limit themselves to 3 students, just as top grad schools don't limit the number of students they take from top colleges. They'd miss out on some extremely bright and well-prepared kids.</p>

<p>Heck, my D's HS, a Boston area PUBLIC school, sent 12 kids to Harvard last year, out of about 450 in the senior class. That's almost 3%. And keep in mind that the local public school takes anyone who can afford rent in the town or pay the property taxes. It is not a magnet school, but it did have 15 merit finalists in the toughest state to qualify. If the school had been in the south or midwest, with their lower SI, it would have had about 40 finalists.</p>

<p>Regarding Andover matriculation preferences, the preferences are a great example of how regional higher ed still is. I wonder, for example, if you'd find a lot more Harvard Westlake alums at west coast colleges?</p>