SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP: utterly clueless Hispanic girl who knows nothing about chances

<p>Drum Roll
After much thought and deliberation (ok not really but more so than for most of my posts)</p>

<p>Princeton: High Match ED, Reach RD
Stanford: Low Reach (URM status seems to play a bigger role here than elsewhere)
Yale: Reach
Dartmouth: Match
Harvard: Reach
Georgetown: Match
Penn: High Match
UNC: Match
USC: Match
Berkeley: High Match
UCLA: Match</p>

<p>All of these assume an improvement in your Math SAT I to 700+. A word of advice: take the Level II Math Subject Test- it is more impressive on your app, and the better curve will nearly make up for a lower raw score than on the Level I. At my Princeton information session, the lady said, "We want to see you challenging yourself. Maybe taking Level I is a challenge for you, but in that case you might not be the type of student Princeton is looking for."</p>

<p>Honestly is this real? It just seems so unreal, like someone thought up everything they possibly could about what clich</p>

<p>thanks so much for the advice.
i think i can probably definitely get my Math SAT I to 700, the first time I took it the ONLY prep I had done was collegeboards free email question-of-the-day things, and that's it. i also didn't have a very good calculator (i know this will only help like...10 points though)</p>

<p>the princeton quote is great. i will definitely take math IIc.
about ED to princeton...
i still have to take the SAT Subject Tests (in October) and the SAT I again (in November). I know that ED applications can still have the November SAT test date on them (or at least I think so, I just checked Princeton's website and that's what it said), but what about my senior grades? My senior courseload is pretty tough but I think my grades will improve...won't ED disqualify that? Actually, I know knowing about ED to schools like Princeton. Are admissions chances higher with ED than with EA?</p>

<p>I really don't see how someone with such an impressive resume could be so clueless. I think this is a fake post. If not, I think you are going to have a tough time in the real world, because you come off as very insecure and vapid. (If you are so set on Ivy League, why wouldn't you do a little more investigation into your grades/rank/percentile, as well as your own research on each school.)</p>

<p>You seem to be trying desperately to get some sympathy. Regarding stadardized test prep., you said "I spend my time in between double shifts at work sitting in Barnes & Noble pouring through college guidebooks (because, pathetic as it I can't spend money on them) and trying to figure some of this stuff out." But if you work 10 hours a week at Barnes and Noble, you're making at least $55-$60 a week. I think you can afford a $19.99 prep. book</p>

<p>And even if you are heavily taxed and your take home pay is like $30, figuring very conservatively, you can still buy the $19.99 prep book, even with tax on the book</p>

<p>i'm sorry if i come off as cliche, vapid, whatever.
this is not a fake post.</p>

<p>here's the deal:
people at my high school tell me that i'm smart and that i'll get into ivy league schools because they don't know much about them. i have NO clue how i stack up compared to anybody else, and that's why i came to this site. </p>

<p>i didn't make up a list of everything that i think will get me into college.
if there's any way that i can prove any of this to you...pictures of me with honduran kids? my swimming records? my family tree?? i don't know. i don't go to a horrible high school, i live in a fairly good part of my town but my dad has been unemployed for the past couple years and my family is basically struggling but hiding it really well. my parents don't have time to worry about where i'm going to get in, they just pat me on the back for good grades and tell me not to drink/do drugs/etc.</p>

<p>i am kind of offended by this, but i guess i understand it.
i am really intent on defending the validity of both my resume and my...ignorance though. also, why would somebody admit to being ignorant? that's not exactly something to be proud of. i'm just looking for advice and help.</p>

<p>no, no i don't work at barnes and noble. i go there in between shifts because it's close to the restaurant where i work. </p>

<p>and like i said, i'm saving money for college, so yeah maybe i could afford it...but my parents have $0 saved for me. literally. read the thing about my dad's being unemployed for the past years. </p>

<p>sorry, i'm not looking for sympathy, just advice.</p>

<p>I have received PM's from the OP thanking me for opinions, etc. I don't think a fake would bother with that. Also, trolls usually make one or two posts and when ppl begin to call them out, they shut up. If you want an example of a truly fake post, check out this one:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=145282%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=145282&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks Weasel.
Really, cavalier, I'll do anything to prove to you I'm not fake.</p>

<p>Yeah that makes me come across as pretty desperate...but I am just in general a person who doesn't like it when people are mad at her or distrust her.</p>

<p>Just be careful that when you are showcasing yourself, you don't come off as the student trying to get into college. You need to show a real passion. I don't know if your ECs, although fantastically ornate, show a real passion for something. That needs to be addressed in either interview or essay format. What I mean is, you need to show wherever you're applying, that you did all these things because you wanted to and not just to get into the school. In my humbly honest opinion, the list of ECs comes off as being a little overdone. I'm not trying to be rude, and please don't try to call me jealous, but it seems to me that you may be trying too hard. I hope you had fun in High School and you did all this stuff because you loved it, if that is the case, you are a great person. However, if you were just following a Princeton Review Book or something, adcoms will sniff that out before you can say "Single Choice Early Action."</p>

<p>I never thought my ECs list was overdone.
Is it???
I definitely will not mention like 5 of those things if so. The thing I have true passion for is my mission work (and i know everybody is going to say what a load of BS, but it's true...i have an essay for you to read if you'd like that i wrote abot honduras for my english class, not as a college app essay, but still)
can you tell me what seems overdone about my ECs?</p>

<p>pm me the essay</p>

<p>jo7, Take a deep breath and slow down. You certainly don't sound clueless -- just unfocused, which is normal at this point in the college search and application process.</p>

<p>Your background will make you a person of interest to just about every school in the US. You have a viable safety, a sure thing. So. . . you’re all set – what you need to do now is to identify what YOU want in a college and come up with a list that is reasonably balanced between matches and reaches and that is a good fit for YOU. </p>

<p>First, let’s talk about the money. There are two kinds of aid – need and merit. Need means what the colleges think you need. It’s fairly easy to determine what this is by asking your family to fill out one of those on-line calculators. Princeton has a good one. </p>

<p>If you qualify for need based aid, then you can proceed to focus on colleges that guarantee to cover your “need.” If you don’t qualify or if your family has the money but for whatever reason doesn’t want to spend it on your education, then you’ll have a very different list. This is where merit aid comes in.</p>

<p>Merit aid is granted for exceptional cases. These can be academic or talent-related or even demographic, e.g. diversity driven. Basically, the college will give you money to entice you to attend whether you need it or not. The complication is that most of the big name or top rated schools don’t give merit aid. Those that do are certainly not less respectable however, so assuming that you qualify for need-based aid, let’s just consider merit aid the cherry on the sundae. </p>

<p>I’d also take a look at the Questbridge website. This is an organization that helps match kids from low income homes with top schools.
<a href="http://www.questbridge.org/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.questbridge.org/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Second, you need to take a systematic approach to making your list. There are hundreds of colleges in America and as I said, there’s nothing in your profile that would keep you out of any of them. Assuming that you will not need merit aid (again, you MUST clarify this point before you go any further) you are a reasonable candidate for most schools. So the question shouldn’t be "Where can I get in?" but rather "What would be a good fit for me?"</p>

<p>You don’t really need to buy a lot of books to perform a sensible search. The internet is your friend. All of the colleges have websites, there are several general college advice boards, and this site is in itself a goldmine of information. </p>

<p>The important point is to do your own research and not to ask general questions. If you ask open-ended questions, you will get non-specific answers with college names thrown out like popcorn to pigeons. Do your homework first, then come back and ask what you want to know about the colleges that you have selected.</p>

<p>Start with comparing attributes like urban/rural/suburban, large/small/medium, artsy/sporty/political, big Greek presence/none, all women/coed, geographic location etc., etc. If you’ve never visited a college campus try to see some near your home. Visits, whether you’re interested in the specific college or not, will help you visualize what type of college is best for you.</p>

<p>I’d suggest that you make a list of about 15-20 schools that interest you and research those in depth. Along the way some will drop out, some will solidify as your favorites and new suggestions will pop up. By around early October you should have a shortlist of about 8-12 that you intend to apply to. </p>

<p>In the interim you can prepare your application, take your tests, gather your recomendations, write your essays. Some colleges have specific needs, but most are very similar in their requirements.</p>

<p>Take heart, it IS confusing and overwhelming at first. But repetition and diligence pays off and in no time you’ll understand the initials, the code words, the points of differentiation.</p>

<p>Third, I’d like to say a word about diversity. All colleges value diversity and all colleges are interested in recruiting high achieving Hispanic students. The big urban universities and most of the big name schools have plenty of URMs. This is especially true of those on either coast. However those schools that are located in more remote locations or the Midwest have a harder time recruiting minorities and after they are admitted, convincing them to attend. So, it makes sense to go against the grain. Find schools with a low percentage of Hispanics where your ethnicity would be a plus.</p>

<p>Fourth, are you recruitable for swimming, in any division? If you’re interested in swimming competitively contact the coaches now. This can a big boost in admissions. Even if you’re not able or interested in swimming on the varsity team, involvement in sports even on a club or personal level is a plus at some schools. Learn which ones these are.</p>

<p>Fifth, Take a looks at small liberal arts colleges. Williams and Amherst are excellent colleges that seem to fit your interests, especially if you are already attracted to Princeton and Dartmouth. They are also very selective, but they need Hispanics and are especially interested in kids with athletic involvement as well as high academic standing. They have a strong track record for getting their students into law school and other graduate programs and offer a lot of personalized attention.</p>

<p>There are many other LACs that you should take a look at. Go through the top 25 list in U.S. News and World report. Many of these offer merit aid as well as need based aid and most would be delighted to recruit someone like you. Don’t eliminate small colleges because you haven’t heard of them. If you don’t want to use UT as your safety or if you want to explore merit aid these are excellent choices. A few that come to mind are Macalester, Carlton, Grinnell, Kenyon, Bowdoin, Smith. . . there are dozens of others.</p>

<p>Last, don’t worry about your SATs. I’d let the SATI stand (your 800’s may just drop if you take it again) and select a few SATIIs that you will excel at. You might consider taking the ACT as well.</p>

<p>Your GPA, rank, ethnicity and extracurriculars are very strong and you won’t need another 50 points in Math to get admitted. Concentrate instead on putting together a knock out application, writing compelling essays, identifying reliable recommenders and most importantly, selecting colleges that are right for YOU.</p>

<p>Good luck and let us know how you do.</p>

<p>thanks for the great advice momrath.
i have an idea/reason for every one of the schools on my list (although some of them are probably stupid) but i didn't think anybody would want to read all of it...i do use websites alot though. the schools on my list are there for a reason, obviously it will be whittled down some (or alot).
thanks for not just dismissing me as a fake.</p>

<p>anybody else have anything to say???</p>

<p>alright, maybe a new crowd of people here at this time of night? actually, who knows, todays my first day on the site. despite what people like cavalier posted...anybody care to read my stats and help me out?</p>

<p>When I mentioned the UC's, I just meant that you should seriously consider why you're applying to them out of state. Sure they're great schools, but part of the benefit is the low tuition in state applicants receive.</p>

<p>Oh. Well, I guess I didn't really know about that. Thanks for the info though. I know many Ivy League schools give great need-based financial aid packages, which is probably what I will qualify for (and everybody saying that the money I have saved from working will hurt that...I only have about 2.5K for the entire summer, not really a high-paying job). I was just trying to look for schools that I could get into that have merit-based need pacakages. My friend was offered 100K out-of-state at one of the smaller UC campuses, but then again she had amazing stats...</p>

<p>bump(still don't know how to narrow down my list or what to think about all this)</p>