Sophie Davis Pgm.

<p>I suggest you guys visit the schools you were accepted to.
Once you visit schools, you usually get this feeling that you belong here, sometimes its because of the campus, sometimes because the students are like you, or something else, but you have to feel at home.</p>

<p>Also consider:
Do I really want to become a doctor or do I have other interests that I can pursue and in 4 years I can consider medical school again?
Do I want to have a traditional college experience or do I want something geared straight towards my future?</p>

<p>I hope financials dont play a huge part of your decisions, I know in todays economy it is really important but make a decision without financials first and then with financials. Its an investment to some worth it, and to others it is not. In the end its what you make yourself at the school, but these days unfortunately college names are becoming name brands. </p>

<p>For many of you medicine feels right but remember there are different ways of getting there.
Good luck with your choices.</p>

<p>@Bigbajo what do you mean “Oh they decided to send some decisions early”?
Do you think there will be some more decisions?</p>

<p>@nogbutor, @AspiringMDbro Did you get email on 27th or Yesterday?</p>

<p>@surachi the 27th</p>

<p>Well somebody posted that they got an email saying the first batch of 41 were sent, I dont know if more was sent, but wait until the day they said decisions were to be sent out. You can always call as well. Remember there are many ways to get into medicine, if you have the will.</p>

<p>Thanks @Bigbajo , @AspiringMDbro.
Just received snail mail and my D is in alternate.
What will be her chances?</p>

<p>Hey is anyone deciding between the Hofstra 4+4 Program and Sophie??? I am really struggling with this!!! AAAAAHHHH!!! Ok so I think Hofstra is more competitive, but there is just not enough information about it!!! But Hofstra does bind you to the BRAND NEW School of Medicine!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!</p>

<p>Surachi, your daughter interviewed at hofstra and wait listed here? Wow. Go figure! One can never guess. What was her final outcome at hofstra?</p>

<p>Bad news there too. Received declined letter today.</p>

<p>Surachi, sorry to hear that. Did your daughter apply to any other BA/MD programs?</p>

<p>I suggest taking a trip to both and talking to students there, I am sure you can do great at both, but depends what you want.</p>

<p>At Sophie, we are a small close group, but we don’t have the good looking campus of Hofstra and the large more traditional feel of Hofstra. I am not sure of how close is Hofstra people at 4+4 program. If you still can’t decide after visiting, just go to where the heart desires, when you first applied, what was your top choice. And if that doesn’t work, look at which one is a better financial pick.</p>

<p>Dorming at the Towers seems expensive. Does Sophie Davis give any scholarships for this?
@BigBajo are some of the classes very early in the morning or very late at night? If so, what are the times?</p>

<p>Insa my stats are: 2290 sat, 36 act, interned with an orthopedic surgeon and cardio surgeon, 94.7 gpa at a specialized high school. Lots of volunteer, leadership in some clubs, track team, lots of dance extracirrics. Nothing too out of the ordinary like those crazy intel people.</p>

<p>I also heard that if you receive less than a B in any class at sophie davis u get kicked out. If that rumor is true i dunno if i want to go, could u answer this question @Bigbajo.</p>

<p>Yea I need to know if the “all work, no play” rumor is true to the extent that most people say before I make my decision
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<p>Also, anyone know what happens if you fail a class? Will you have to go to community college, or be in City College Honors?</p>

<p>Stop worrying about failing now. B- is the minimum in Sophie Classes, but that is 70average which is similar to C- in first year courses. If you fail a course, you get a final chance exam to pass it, if you fail that, you repeat the course the following year, and fall back. Now about 1/4 of students fail and take the exam at least once at Sophie. And some end up taking course over or just exiting the program. If you fail out, you can transfer to City College or elsewhere and do something else. About 1/4 of a class end up failing or leaving the program for various reasons. Which is still better than chance of applying to med school, making med school and completing medical school. So yeah don’t worry too much now about it.</p>

<p>All work no play is somewhat true first 2 years but really once you start medical school courses you will be studying all day pretty much as is expected in any medical school.</p>

<p>Hmmm, so let me get this straight: The Sophie Davis Program does not FORCE you to leave, rather, kids who fail drop out by their own accord? </p>

<p>What happens if you fail one class in your 5th year? Will you still have to leave?</p>

<p>Wow so those 1/4 of people who drop/ transfer out are stuck at pretty “lower- tier” schools to complete their undergrad?</p>

<p>Forgive me for being academically morbid, but I am trying to imagine all the possibilities that can occur in those 5 years
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<p>Well if you fail a course on your second try, you fail out, basically you have to leave Sophie Davis that’s the nice way of saying you are kicked out. Well almost always people fail early on, but yes if you fail 5 year, you are done, I have only heard people failing out 4thyear at lates. And what happens is they used up their 2nd chance already first/ or second year, then they fail a course in 4th year that they can’t retakes again next year cause they did that already in the past, so they are kicked out and make a plan to transfer elsewhere where they should have like 3/4 of undergrad degree unless they major in something weird after leaving Sophie Davis. I heard people who fail out and finish undergrad and do lab work, teach or do masters or phd, or people who leave do that or change major into something like biomedical engineering and do that. Just depends what the person does himself. </p>

<p>According to prof. It is very hard to walk away from Sophie because you are invested in it and lots of family pressure to do it and its a major disappointment to change your mind, but a few manage to do it when they figure out medicine isn’t fit for them, others just suffer, and fail out instead. I know this investment because daily in my 2nd year of undergrad everyone in my family calls me doctors, my cousins know I am studying medicine, aunts, uncles, etc and they think I am already in medical school which sorta I am but still got a long way to go. Now at 19, this pressure forces people to stay at program when they know medicine may not be right for them. I have my doubts but I also feel this is right for me, so I am happy at SD. But just saying, it’s better to figure out early if medicine is your thing. </p>

<p>Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I just remembered this.</p>

<p>Also to put things in perspective, say 1/4 of class fail or leave, means 80% completition rate. Lets say 1/3 at worse, 67% completion rate that is still significantly better than let’s take into account the traditional way- 4 years of undergrad where lots of people start per med and then drop out, I don’t know rate here. But let’s say you get through this part no problem- then applying to medical school, overall med school admission rate is like 40 percent, so only 40 percent of students who apply to medical school get accepted.</p>

<p>So 40 % at best if you dont drop out before pre med, to 67 at worst, or 80, your chance at succeeding to become a doctor is better, less risk at SD. Now I am sure like half of pre med kids change minds after getting a B in Orgo or something or something else, so your looking at at least twice better at SD. </p>

<p>That is in perspective the way to look at 1/4 -1/3 who don’t finish SD. </p>

<p>:) be positive and be confident.</p>

<p>That last post made a lot of sense lol. </p>

<p>Alright so what about the fact that Sophie lost Stony Brook Med and Dartmouth? Lot of my acquaintances didn’t apply to SD for this reason. </p>

<p>Also, what about the accreditation that SD is seeking for a NEW CUNY med school? Will a BS and a MD from CUNY/ brand-new medical school affect your future residencies/ career?</p>