Sophomore Transfer to CAS, Gallatin, or Stern

<p>Hello!</p>

<p>I'm currently attending BU and I want to transfer to NYU for my sophomore year (Fall 2013). I really want to major in Business and maybe eventually Law at NYU, for example (Finance, Business Management, Marketing, A&M, Corporate, etc)</p>

<p>Since, I am applying for sophomore transfer, my high school transcript and ACT would still matter.</p>

<p>In high school, I was a B/B+ Average student.
My ACT was not as good as I wanted it to be... 27
I've also taken 5 APs</p>

<p>I'd have been in a lot of extracurriculars, volunteering and sports while in high school.</p>

<p>In college, I'm seriously going to work my butt off hoping for a 3.7+
---- I'm currently taking the pre-requisite that is needed to apply for Stern and some other classes that are unconventional, but helps with the business world/major.</p>

<p>I also am determined to do the same in college with clubs and such.</p>

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<p>The problem that I have right now is....</p>

<p>I'm not sure if I would be accepted to Stern even with all that.</p>

<p>I read the article by one person saying that it isn't as near-impossible to get into Stern as a transfer.</p>

<p>Do each program accept a different about of transfer students?</p>

<p>I want to apply to Gallatin since I am very intrigued by the individualized major and I can intertwine different majors that I want to study.</p>

<p>Stern, for it's business program.</p>

<p>CAS for Econ or History.</p>

<p>The thing is that I'm in a rut, I'm not sure which program I should choose to apply too..
NYU has an option of being placed in a different program that they think is more suited for you if you get denied a spot for your choice of college.</p>

<p>I'm torn apart on whether if I apply to Stern, I have a big chance of being declined a spot and I would not be able to attend NYU (unless they offer me in a different college) or apply to Gallatin/CAS and have a wee bit better chance of being accepted, but not being able to pursue my career in business.</p>

<p>So, I'm here to ask the fellow alummus of NYU, current students, and the people who have an idea of what would be the best option to pursue in this case.</p>

<p>P.S. I've heard that Gallatin allows their students to take 36 credits at Stern. I'm not sure if that would be a great big help with my interest in business or whatnot.</p>

<p>P.S.S. I am also thinking about applying to The New School - Parsons School of Design (Maybe Design and Business Management or Fashion Design) & maybe Fordham.</p>

<p>So, please give me your opinions. I'll take all the help I can get.</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

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<li><p>It is pretty hard to get into Stern as an external transfer but people still do it every year. You could try calling their admissions board to ask for specific statistics. Overall, don’t focus on how hard the task is, but rather just try your best at accomplishing it. </p></li>
<li><p>I don’t know how much each program accepts, it probably varies due to numerous factors. I think Stern took in about 100 or so transfers last year (Sophs + Juniors). </p></li>
<li><p>As for which school to apply to? You need to really think about this on your own. If you want to do law, then you probably don’t even need to come to NYU for undergrad. </p></li>
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<p>Just go to a state school because NYU law actually tends to favor undergraduates outside of NYU during their admissions process. A lot of schools do this because ultimately it means the school gets to cast a wider net when asking for donations. For example, imagine two identical students are applying to NYU Law but one went to NYU CAS and the other went to Rutgers University. If NYU Law takes in the CAS kid, in 10 years they will only get to ask 1 person for donations. However, if they take the student that went to Rutgers, they will get to ask both students for donations in 10 years. Of course there are other factors to keep in mind like will your peers equally motivate you if you went to state school and will you have the same opportunities, etc etc. But a state school will save you money in the long term since it will be cheaper. </p>

<p>If you are focused on business, I suggest you apply Stern and have CAS Econ as your back-up. If you really just want to attend NYU whille still getting some business training/knowledge, apply to CAS and then Gallatin. </p>

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<li>I don’t know how much 36 credits will help. First, what do you want to get out of your business education? Are you going to be an entrepreneur? Or try to get into i-banking? It’s a lot to think about, but you need to figure this stuff out so you can craft a gameplan/education based around what you really want. The 36 credits roughly equals 9 classes, and that would be enough to take all the practical Stern core business classes. </li>
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<p>I hope I helped.</p>

<p>“Just go to a state school because NYU law actually tends to favor undergraduates outside of NYU during their admissions process” </p>

<p>NYU undergraduate is one of the largest feeder schools to NYU law, typically being between #2 and #5 for largest representation for law students at NYU. Typically only the Ivies have more students at NYU law than NYU undergrad.</p>

<p>To clarify, I meant NYU Law would favor the non-NYU student over the NYU student if their stats were identical. Good catch though NYU2013!</p>

<p>I still don’t think that is true. </p>

<p>If it were true that they were less favored over their counterparts, we should see U-Mich, UCLA, UC-B and the other large publics having larger representation over NYU – since they’ll have roughly the same number of applicants (assuming an average of X% of the school applies). The only schools that come above NYU are usually the top Ivies – Harvard, Yale, Columbia, etc. Based on that statistic, it would actually seem NYU favors its own undergraduates. </p>

<p>In fact, two of the T-14 law schools favor their own undergraduates so much that if they have high GPA’s they have special application processes. For example, at Georgetown if you have a 3.7 GPA, you can apply without taking the LSAT. Something similar exists at Michigan. </p>

<p>It would seem, then, that Law schools favor their own.</p>

<p>Don’t do Gallatin if you want to go to graduate school. Stern is what it is not just because of its education, but the opportunities that come with having a Stern degree…which in all likelihood will be looked upon more favorably than Gallatin. If not Stern, then go for CAS and do Econ or some pre-law courses. If you can get a killer GPA (3.8+) you should be in solid shape for a transfer (given strong EC’s and other stuff).</p>

<p>@Surish : Thanks for the feedback! I’m wanting to do something between Finance and Marketing.</p>

<p>Would the 36 credits even be worth it though? Will it give only a gist of what I would need to learn about the business world, like a foundation?</p>

<p>@GeneralGao : I was thinking of Gallatin because I want to interpret outside majors that can help define my knowledge of business and have a better approach to it. Would it still not be worth it?</p>

<p>Also, would I have a chance if I do really well my first year? (3.8+ [according to generalgao])</p>

<p>And I was wondering, Stern has pre-requisite for transfer (sophomore) Micro, Writing, Calculus. </p>

<p>I’m currently taking Micro and Writing Seminar for the fall
semester, but I didn’t sign up for calculus (ap credit).</p>

<p>But Stern doesn’t take AP Credit, and I’m not sure if they want calc to be done when applying. Would it be ok to take it Sping semester?</p>

<p>And, does NYU pay attention to High School transcript and test scores as much? Or is it about 50/50? </p>

<p>Plus, I don’t know if this helps me out in any sorts, but I don’t really need financial aid.</p>

<p>also, in common app, how do you choose another school as a back up? It only has “pick intended school/major” and a button for yes/no if I would consider being accepted to another school I I do not get accepted to what I applied for.</p>

<p>you can’t pick which specific school you get deferred to, they do that for you</p>

<p>@tynpcya: To be honest, I don’t know. If you’re looking to break into i-banking or something similar, it would probably not give enough of a basis unless you used all of your 36 credits only towards Finance course. If you took as many core Stern classes with your credits, I think it would be a solid business foundation. I think CAS offers a business minor at Stern which is only like 6-7 classes (roughly 24-28 credits). If you were looking to be an entrepreneur, 36 credits would probably be enough to give you enough business insight. </p>

<p>You should to ask yourself what you’d do with your business education. Once you have that answer, you could research all the Stern/CAS classes available to Gallatin students and see they match up.</p>

<p>Right, to reiterate, if you’re using your business education for starting your own business/entrepreneurial or something, Gallatin is fine. If you want to get hired by an i-bank or a company/grad school that looks for technical ability, you probably have to go with Stern.</p>