<p>no, that doesn't answer my question and obviously i read all the posts before me, this decision is very important to me. just because all fpf students got housing doesn't mean that it is easier for them to get housing in the spring; spring admits could have all gotten housing also.</p>
<p>I have some questions about the program.
What does the program mean in terms of the courses you are allowed to take? How restricted is your course selection? Does being in the program have any effect on your ability to graduate in four years or your ability to eventually take upper division courses in your major? </p>
<p>Thanks for any replies.</p>
<p>cas3704, the courses are on the FPF site. there aren't very many, especially if you fulfill the reading/comp and quantitative requirements.</p>
<p>link: <a href="http://www.unex.berkeley.edu/fpf/selectionform.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.unex.berkeley.edu/fpf/selectionform.html</a></p>
<p>I plan to apply for the FPF program. It requires that I send in the Enrollment and Payment Form (EPF) but I can't find it online! Every time I click the link for the form, it leads me back to my admissions homepage. Anyone else having this problem or know how I can find the form? I want to send it out tomorrow!</p>
<p>I'm in the same position as the person above me... I'm so confused and frustrated! Can ANYONE find this stupid form!?!?</p>
<p>Under certain circumstances, you may be able to take courses on the main campus. For example, if you have completed AP Calc BC and passed with a 5, you may be able to take Math 53/54 on campus.</p>
<p>unlimitedx, do you know how one goes about doing that?</p>
<p>You would have to fill out a petition to take that class and meet up with the FPF coordinator.</p>
<p>I highly suggest you all to visit Cal Day and go to the FPF presentation.</p>
<p>avoidingwork,</p>
<p>Thank you for your positive and informative messages on a confusing day.</p>
<p>Okay. I'm trying to understand this situation.</p>
<p>I'm a Spring Admit. The Applicant Pool was appx 9,000 admits out of appx 40,000 something for Fall 2006. Does that mean that we are not a part of those appx 9,000 admits? Are we still considered a UCB "admit"?</p>
<p>Secondly, do we get the same acceptance package? </p>
<p>I'm so confused. =(</p>
<p>I had no idea there were so many spring admits. If we all decide to go for the fall extension program we'd be able to meet one another in person. And thank you so much for all the people that provided information about the FPF, it really helps to know that it's a pretty decent program.</p>
<p>No problem.</p>
<p>For those who seriously have a problem being a spring admit, just treat it as a rejection then and move on. No one would know.</p>
<p>tealeaf, you need to look carefully when statistics are reported, many indicate that they are only for Fall students only. As for your acceptance packet, the only difference is when you start at CAL and your options for the Fall semester.</p>
<p>For those who are interested in looking at historical stats of Fall admits and Spring admits, here is the link to Berkeley's Office of Student Research query page <a href="http://osr2.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/Access/DB/Frontends/runapp.pl%5B/url%5D">http://osr2.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/Access/DB/Frontends/runapp.pl</a>
I did a quick query on SAT average scores comparing Fall 2004 admits with Spring 2005. The Fall averages were slightly higher than Spring. The average SAT verbal was 617 for Spring admits and was 638 for Fall. The average SAT math was 645 for Spring and was 676 for Fall. IMO, an insignificant difference</p>
<p>And, if you are interested in the details of CAL admissions check out <a href="http://education.berkeley.edu/accreditation/pr_essays_1a.html%5B/url%5D">http://education.berkeley.edu/accreditation/pr_essays_1a.html</a>. There are several links to further info in that article, including <a href="http://education.berkeley.edu/accreditation/pdf/AVC_2001.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://education.berkeley.edu/accreditation/pdf/AVC_2001.pdf</a> written in 2001 about comprehensive review.</p>
<p>But, you can ignore this stuff, and just figure out on your own what your plans are going to be...good luck</p>
<p>Does it say on your transcript "Special Spring Admit English?" Honestly, I am still biting the bullet of having a poor freshman yr in high school and I don't like the idea of starting off on the wrong foot in college. </p>
<p>Is it true you can only take 4 classes? The impression I get is that they don't think you can handle it at Berkeley, so they're giving you this extension thing in case you can't handle it and need to get yourself out. It seems as if all of these classes aren't typical of the Berkeley curriculum, as it is more of a reflection of ACCLIMATING as we are INCAPABLE.</p>
<p>Also, if I have a 5 in English Lit, Calc BC, & Stats, what do I take? I really wanted to take multivariable calc, intermediate stats, intermediate econ, and Chinese I 1st semester. So not only am I limited to four classes, but I will not be unable to take ANY of them during fall semester?!?! </p>
<p>Sorry for the rant, but I feel somewhat lacking in value after an onslaught of Ivy rejections today. It seems as if this is kind of a slap in the face, primarily because of the selection of classes they offer.</p>
<p>Only 4 classes eh? Well, reality check is, that's the limit enough one freshmen can handlle- anyone more and the grades will be compromised. I don't think you comprehend the level of difficulty of the coursework here at Berkeley, stambliark41. Even if you were able to take "multivariable calc, intermediate stats, intermediate econ, and Chinese I 1st semester" for letter grades you would have been swamped with more than a freshmen can handle.
Perhaps you should look elsewhere then. Don't come. I've been explaining this program and benefits the whole day to spring admits and it seems as if you perceive me being some sort of evil man trying to trap you into this horrible program. If you feel so incapable and lacking in value, then go to another university. Treat this as a rejection and move on.</p>
<p>Couple questions about the FPF.</p>
<p>I'm also having trouble finding the EPF form on the site...anyone find it yet?</p>
<p>Do FPF students get the same housing process as all the normal fall admits, meaning that we have the same chance of getting the rooms/dorms we request? I'm reading that all spring admits got a room somewhere...but maybe they were given their last choice?</p>
<p>So since we can send the FPF deposit in before committing to Berkeley, we might as well send that in now, right?</p>
<p>unlimited, I didn't mean to be such a complainer. And to be honest it was a surge of emotions last night, essentially all that were negative - perhaps you understand. I had missed your previous post above. So you technically can take classes at the regular college if you have sufficient evidence for it? That's great, so maybe I'll be able to have more options after all.</p>
<p>And if you could forgive my misguided ignorance/arrogance, would you mind explaining the transcript situation? From a grad school perspective, would I be better off going to UCLA as a regular freshman than as a Berkeley Spring Admit? Would any graduate program know I was a spring admit, or would they just think I took an interesting selection of courses my first semester?</p>
<p>Sorry, I've been on edge all week and yesterday was the pinnacle of it all. Thanks for all of the help you have provided so far - I am more confused about this program than upset by it.</p>
<p>hi jedipsohn,</p>
<p>Spring Admits who enroll in FPF may apply for dorm housing. However, dorm housing is not guaranteed for the Fall semester. Spring Admits get housing if there is sufficient space. The FPF office has much information on housing options. In addition to the dorms, there are private 'dorms' (eg Telegraph Commons) and the coops. </p>
<p>If you are going to CAL day, there are coop tours, but you can visit coops at any time, by just knocking on their doors and asking.</p>
<p>yes, im still confused about it too. and till when do we have to register? i mean the site says first come first serve basis, so till what time do i have to decide??</p>
<p>If you are considering going to FPF, go ahead and sign up for it. Even if you are still deciding on whether to go to CAL or not. On the FPF website, the deadline is May 12th, but it indicates they are ususally full *before the deadline. *</p>
<p>There is nothing to lose by going ahead and signing up now, and then you will likely be in the first 650. Suggest you get the materials together and Fed Ex (or similar) it to them so you have a record of their receipt.</p>