Stanford, Duke, MIT, WashU, and JHU-new ivies?

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<p>All these schools repeatedly come out in the top 20 in the quality of their departements. Though I trust the USNWR rankings less than these, Duke, Stanford, and MIT all come out in the top 10, above many ivy leagues like Brown, Dartmouth, and Cornell. JHU has one of the best medical programs in America. Heck, some schools that don't rank that high but are great like Georgetown also have qualities that exceed the ivies.</p>

<p>Does the Ivy label give an unfair advantage to similiar quality schools simply because they are older? BTW, grats to all you Stanfordians for 2013! I'll be at Duke next year!</p>

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<p>The “Ivy League” was originally a sports league so don’t think it was orig. based on academic reputations. While I agree that some schools can be considered peers w/ the ivy league, the “ivy” name still means something. Why? Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Brown, etc are some of the best colleges in the country. Sure the ivy league should be more inclusive, perhaps, but I don’t think it is worth whining about a “label.” The vast majority of the schools would be at the top whether or not they were called an “ivy”… just like MIT/Stanford/Caltech/etc are top schools even though they rnt officially “ivies”…</p>

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<p>Contrast Ivy League, with its very definite definition, </p>

<p>[Ivy</a> League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League]Ivy”>Ivy League - Wikipedia) </p>

<p>with “Ivy plus,” a term with a vague and indefinite definition. </p>

<p>[Ivy</a> plus](<a href=“"Ivy plus" site:.edu]Ivy - Google Search”>"Ivy plus" site:.edu - Google Search)</p>

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<p>The Ivy League is an Athletic Conference. All of those schools just happen to be rich and have a strong academic program.</p>

<p>MIT and Stanford> All except Harvard, Princeton, and Yale
Duke> Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth</p>