Does anyone know whether Stanford won more of these this past season? Thanks.
Stanford won the overall yield this year for the first time.
81.1% vs 81.0% of each accepted class, respectively
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/15/class-2019-yield-81-percent/
Good question - not sure if anyone outside the two admissions offices knows at this point. As noted, Stanford’s yield was slightly higher but that’s for all admits and I’m not sure what conclusions on cross-admits can be drawn from that.
The current Parchment cross-admit data (based on self-report data so has to be taken with a grain of salt) shows 39% Stanford/61% Harvard, and the Stanford faculty senate report from 2014 showed very similar numbers (42% Stanford).
Going from ~ 40% to over 50% in one year would be a big swing but certainly possible.
That’s yield; it’s not focusing solely on those applicants who got accepted to both.
As mentioned above, the admissions offices have probably analyzed this, but that has not been shared with the public AFAIK.
I’ve always wondered about those Parchment data. My son didn’t use that service or know anyone who did, but of the few Stanford-Harvard cross-admits he knew (including himself), none of them chose Harvard. My sense is that Stanford is “hot” right now, especially for students interested in tech. But I don’t think it’s “better” than Harvard–or that Harvard is better than Stanford (or Yale, or Princeton, etc.). Each of these schools has its own strengths and weaknesses, and any given student may feel more comfortable at one than at another.
Yes I wonder about the Parchment data too. As far as I know it’s the best publicly available cross admit data but it’s based on whoever responds and not necessarily a representative sample. The numbers are similar in the faculty senate data but that was for the class of 2018.
There was some pretty robust sampling/analysis done by Avery and colleagues on this topic (for Stanford and Harvard plus a broader set of schools) but that data is from a while back and doesn’t speak to what the results for the class of 2019 were.
Most likely some applicants admitted to both will turn them both down, so the total cross-admit numbers adding up to 100% seems inaccurate.
Yes, certainly some will choose a third school. I believe the percentages from Parchment and Avery are win rates for the two schools, of those choosing one or the other.
In any case, the number of cross admits isn’t all that high.The 2014 Stanford faculty senate numbers show 214 cross admits with Harvard so only about 10% of total Stanford admits are cross-admits with Harvard.
Not sure what you’re trying to glean from this-- that one school is “better” than the other?
Thank you everyone for the answers. If I get the info I will post. @GMTplus7 I am not sure why the reasons I or the others participating in this post want to or are willing to discuss this matters. This is a site to share information for whatever reason one wants it or wants to give it. If it is not of value to you, skip it and let the others who find value continue.
I only ask, because many posters want an answer to a particular problem, but sometimes other posters discover the OP is asking the wrong question.
According to a Stanford admin, Stanford won the cross-admit battle with Harvard for the first time ever for the Class of 2019, winning 52%-48%.
Wow. That is news. And partially explains why Parchment (flawed though it is) now says that H wins 6 out of 10 instead of 8. Of course that would be over a series of years. Not just last year. But wow.
What is the source?
If this is true, no doubt the fact that the preceding winter at Harvard was the worst on record in terms of snow and frigid temperatures had something to do with it. This past winter was much milder in comparison and Visitas was fairly warm. It’ll be interesting to see what the numbers show this year.
Stanford has been the most selective university in the US… leads in annual fundraising .nobel prizes awarded to its faculty this past century. The Stanford model of education has become the gold standard of higher education in not just the US but the world. It’s a model being emulated by other universities including Harvard (and Cornell ironically) and many countries. No doubt fueled by Stanford’s role as the birth place of silicon valley - arguably the center for human innovation in the world. … mimicked in other locals by Silicon Beach, Silicon Hills, Silicon Slopes, Silicon Prairie, Silicon Alley etc.
Stanford is a uniquely American University modeled initially after Cornell. Stanford was founded coeducational, in a time when most were all-male; non-denominational, when most were associated with a religious organization. It has forged a relationship with industry and built the first university industrial park in the US that is home to over 23k employees and companies such as HP and Tesla. Stanford’s rise is to due in large part to having forged its own identity around innovation and not only supplying the talent that made Silicon Valley possible but also the financial backing of Sand Hill Road which is the Wall Street of Venture Capital and sits on the northern edge of campus. Stanford’s rise has is a lot more to do than the weather… a lot more.
Yeap. Having went to Cornell, I feel Stanford is Cornell on steroid: all programs excellent across the board with a better weather.
Stanford is a combination of Harvard and MIT, with the athletics of a top state school. This is a killer combo that makes it really special.
I would bet that in the next few years Stanford will enter the global public consciousness at the same level as Harvard in terms of prestige and recognition ( it is already considered in the same breath but Harvard is still banking on the prestige and recognition it has had for hundreds of years, but Stanford is rapidly catching up). Nowadays most people inside and outside the US recognize Harvard, Stanford and MIT as the very best US universities.
From my research, Harvard and Stanford are the two richest (net assets which includes endowment) colleges in the world. Harvard’s net asset is 45 billion vs. 38 bill for Stanford. Stanford has all the money and land space to make it grow its world-wide reputation even more.
My kid just didn’t like the snow slushing around at Harvard during one winter visit. Sure, snow looks beautiful etc on post card, but at an urban setting with a lot of cars and foot traffic, it gets slushy fast. People who think Stanford weather is the same year around has not really lived there.