Stanford out of state-Can I do it?

<p>Applying to either engineering or biological sciences</p>

<p>My Stats:</p>

<p>GPA: 4.13/4.33 Unweighted
PSAT (11th grade): 240
SAT Math Level 2: 800
SAT Biology: 790
SAT U.S. History: 800
SAT I: 2320 superscored (800 CR, 760 M, 760 W (12 essay))</p>

<p>School sends maybe 15-20 kids/yr to pretty banging schools</p>

<p>6 AP Exams taken, 4 APs senior year, A+s in all but 1 AP Class, all 3 science APs school offers will be taken</p>

<p>Math and Science APs: Calc BC, Bio. Physics and Chem sr year. All 5s on the 6 i have taken. And statistics at Rutgers. </p>

<p>Extracurricular Activities:</p>

<p>Scientific Research:
• Selected for and participated in 2005 Waksman Student Scholars program at Waksman Institute at Rutgers University, involved in genome analysis of the brine shrimp Artemia Fransciscana.
• Summer 2005: Internship in lab of Dr. Joachim Messing, Director of Waksman Insitute, comparative genomics of cereal genomes, analysis of the maize and rice genomes.
• Currently working on research project for potential submission to both Siemens-Westinghouse/Intel Science Talent Search competitions.</p>

<p>Science Related Activities:
• Member of Science League Team for 2 years: Chemistry I team (grade 10) and Biology II team (grade 11)
• Member of Science Olympiad Team, qualified for state Science Olympiad tournament in Designer Genes, Vice President 2007-2008.
• Member of Science and Math Honors Societies, tutoring responsibilities.
• In-school Waksman Student Scholars Research—continue research during school year/yearly poster presentation. (grades 9/10/11). </p>

<p>Other Activities:
• Member of Forensics (Speech and Debate) Team since 9th grade. Captain of Debate team.
• Accomplishments:<br>
o Public Forum Debate: 10th place 2005 State Tournament, 8th Place 2006 State Tournament, State Champion 2007. National Tournament Qualifier 2006, at Nationals ranked in top 30 out of 216. Harvard Invitational 2007 Octafinalist.
o Extemporaneous Speaking: 6th place at 2006 New Jersey District Tournament, 3rd place at 2007 State Tournament.
o In 2007, only New Jersey qualifier to the Tournament of Champions based on national circuit performance.
• Vice President of Model United Nations Club, member since 9th grade, selected to serve on Crisis Committee at 2006 Boston University/MIT conference.
• Member of National Honors Society and German Honors Society.
• Member of school Symphony Orchestra, passed Associated Board of the Royal Schools of Music (London, UK) Grade 5 exam in violin and Grade 5 exam in Music Theory, private lessons since age 8.
• Member of Boy Scouts since age 6, currently Life rank, working on Eagle Scout project involving installation of bird boxes and irrigation system at outdoor nature classroom at local elementary school. </p>

<p>Community Service
• 60 Volunteer Hours at Hospital
• Member of Rescue Squad since 2004—working on EMT certification, on call 4 hours weekly, 36 hours every 6th weekend (rotating duty weekends). </p>

<p>Summer Programs/Courses/Jobs/Activities</p>

<p>o Summer 2005-research at Waksman Institute
o Summer 2006
o Attended National Debate Tournament
o Macroeconomics credit course at Rutgers University (Grade: A)
o Employed 3hr/day at Somerset County Tennis Camp, 15 hr/week
o Summer 2007
o Attended New Jersey Governor’s School in the Sciences at Drew University.
o Rutgers University Statistics credit course
o Summer 2007- Extensive research for Intel Science Talent Search/Siemens-Westinghouse project</p>

<p>Awards/Honors</p>

<p>o 3-year consecutive medalist in AATG National German Examination. Grade 10 ranked 4th, Grade 11 ranked 1st.
o Recipient of New Jersey Governor’s Award for Arts Education for State Championship in Public Forum Debate.
o Attended National Youth Leadership Conference in Washington DC, November 2006</p>

<p>What I think could help:</p>

<p>Will have a paper in the American Journal of Undergraduate Research, and a provisional patent application. Both will be submitted with app because caltech evaluates papers. This is in addition to potential siemens/intel success.</p>

<p>In easily
10char</p>

<p>really? what about my profile makes you say that?</p>

<p>llpitch exaggerates everyone's chances (as though it's that easy to get into Stanford, or even that easy to say so).</p>

<p>Your chances are really great -- there are no visible weaknesses. Despite this, I wouldn't be surprised if you're rejected. Why? Because, to be frank, there have been people more impressive than you who've been rejected. Search the user chillaxin. (Everyone thought she'd get in easily; she didn't.)</p>

<p>I really do think that your chances are high -- better than most -- but bear in mind that it's never a "you're in easily" thing. Good luck!</p>

<p>yea i know that i'm obviously not in easily.</p>

<p>you're bound to get into at least one of HYPSMC unless there's something bad you didn't tell us about. i'd be willing to bet money on that.</p>

<p>What will your recs and essays be like? You will still need very strong recs and essays.</p>

<p>my reccomendations will be excellent-they will focus on how i help others/my good character etc. (i'm taking this from what teachers wrote in my yearbook-their comments were far from generic), and my calc teacher who will be writing one, has written me one for nj gov school and it was successful (i have seen it as well). essays-i am a good writer, so hopefully i can work hard and do well-they probably won't be amazing because i haven't had too many intense experiences, but not subpar either. interview should also be good because of the speaking skills i acquired from debate.</p>

<p>not sure if it's bad-frosh year my gpa was 3.9, then it became 4.245 for both 10/11 (UW). will they look down on frosh year-it was actually probably a 4.1, but for a b- in an elective, or will my positive grade trend help me?</p>

<p>I don't think they officially look at freshman year grades at all, so that should be fine. </p>

<p>And you don't need intense experiences to write a successful college admissions essay! One of my friends wrote about her friendship with her mom, another wrote about friendships ending, another started her essay with the phrase "I love money" and talked about fundraising and a business she started... there are a LOT of things you can write about. Who are you? What do you love? What are you like? If you convey that, you'll have a strong essay.</p>

<p>Stanford "out of state" is a plus or atleast neutral. Despite the general belief of east coasters on this board, Stanford DOES NOT like to take people from California. In the sickening campaign to have more superficial "diversity" most California kids get shafted. Granted Stanford has a high percentage of California kids, but remember a) California is a HUGE state that has about as many kids as the entire northeast b) most Stanford alumns from many years past are from California, so California kids have a disproprionate amount of legacy c) California is a super rich state, so California kids have a disproprionate amount of developmental status d) the Stanford professors and faculty live in California, and thus their California kids will get that bump.</p>

<p>Add that all together and you realize just how incredibly hard it is for a non-hooked California student to get in. I hear getting into Harvard from Boston is a similiar situation.</p>

<p>are you a URM?</p>

<p>no i am an indian male-ORM</p>

<p>just apply....and make your essays really good...at least you're not an international student</p>

<p>trackstar- i noticed that too...i was looking through decisions on wikipedia and most of the kids who had great stats and were rejected were california residents...l</p>

<p>Chillaxin got into Harvard lol. But yea, great chances...I would be surprised if you were rejected but not that surprised.</p>

<p>"Add that all together and you realize just how incredibly hard it is for a non-hooked California student to get in"</p>

<p>I spoke with an admissions officer at Stanford (when I went up there for a college conference), and asked her about geographic diversity. She flat out told me: Stanford does not care whether you're from California or not. They aren't looking for certain ratios for geographic diversity. They're looking to admit the most able class, and even if that entire class happens to be from California, so be it. It doesn't speak to their success at all.</p>

<p>of course they're not going to tell you " We prefer students from out of state''. Same way they won't tell you "We don't really consider asians minorities.''</p>

<p>Yeah. they make so much money just from applications
dude: I have no activities, and I scored 17 in the ACT. should I apply?
admissions: Yeah! of course! give me your money...</p>

<p>i'm an applicant too... so idk much about chances, but this is pretty good.
in other words, coughihateyoucough. i hope to see you there next year!</p>

<p>racnna: it's attitudes like yours that perpetuate all the myths regarding admissions and forever worry prospective students even more.</p>

<p>^True that, no matter how "valid" you may personally deem it.</p>