<p>folks here are spitting a garbage fed by stanford loss data. if you control the input you control the out put. show me harvard yale loss data( from school) then we can talk facts. stanford argumrnt is selfserving. in RD they admit bunch folks from CA( 90% come), lots of Harvard/Yale EAs, bunch of Eng applicant( good yield). so the balance good yield from CA applicants and Engineering applicants with loss to HYP. Harvard loss to stanford would rank behind, yale, pton, penn,brown columbia,mit.talk facts no hogwash anyone!!!!!!</p>
<p>baba, the majority of your remarks are incorrect and fallicious. As Byerly previously stated, Harvard and Stanford have the largest overlap in their admits. </p>
<p>From data found on the Yale website for the Class of 2006, these were the cross admit rates of elite schools with Harvard:</p>
<p>Harvard + Stanford: 345 admits
Harvard + Yale: 292 admits
Harvard + Princeton: 182 admits
Harvard + MIT: 109 admits</p>
<p>255 chose Harvard, 90 chose Stanford
246 chose Harvard, 46 chose Yale
133 chose Harvard, 49 chose Princeton
60 chose Harvard, 49 chose MIT </p>
<p>Therefore, percentage of cross admits that Harvard wins:</p>
<p>Stanford: 74%
Yale: 84%
Princeton: 73%<br>
MIT: 55%</p>
<p>As you can see from the figures, baba, Stanford does better than Yale against Harvard and as well as Princeton.</p>
<p>Also, I don't understand Baba's argument that Stanford intentionally chooses to admit Harvard and Yale EA admits. First of all, it would not be beneficial to the university's stats. Most colleges (like Tufts, UPenn, Columbia, lesser ivies, and even Princeton) prefer not to admit people who got into Harvard and Yale because it lowers their yield. In addition, even if Stanford wanted to go crazy and purposely admit people who got into HY, there would be no way Stanford could do so. Harvard and Yale do not release that kind of information to the public. Stanford has no way of knowing which applicants got into Harvard early action. The only reason that Stanford and Harvard share so many cross-admits is because both universities look for the same type of over-achieving applicants who stand out from the rest. Neither Stanford nor Harvard suffers from Tufts Syndrome. In Harvard's case, it knows that it can basically get almost whoever it wants to get. After all, it's the one and only HARVARD, and people will choose it just for the name. Harvard doesn't have to worry about its applicants choosing other schools. In Stanford's case, however, it doesn't have the guarantee that all its admits will choose the school. Some will choose Harvard, some Yale, some MIT, etc. However, Stanford feels that it is wrong to try and game the system, and it admits anyone that it thinks is qualified. If that qualified person ends up choosing another school, then so be it. I personally like Stanford's philosophy of fairness, and in the end it does benefit the school. The student body is a lot stronger because you don't have any of those mediocre people that the college admitted in order to increase the yield. Stanford's class is just as strong as Harvard's class, but the admit rate ends up being like 3 percent higher.</p>
<p>baba has made many, many remarks that make very little sense.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have a thing against WUSTL, UPenn and Columbia because they waitlisted me when I applied regular decision. I got into Stanford, Harvard, Yale, MIT, Caltech and Dartmouth (likely letter). It just seems fishy that I got waitlisted at WUSTL, Penn, and Columbia but got into every other school.</p>
<p>WUSTL is notorious for waitlisting over-qualified applicants. Penn is also notorious for waitlisting over-qualified people who didn't apply ED. I didn't hear much about Columbia playing the Tufts Syndrome game, but it could be possible.</p>
<p>all EA/ED folks have access to admit data. they have to share this information with each other. SAT scores also lists schools where scores are sent.</p>
<p>need to link to yale website for cross admit data. it looks fishy to me. harvard loss to 1yale 2mit 3 pton look good</p>
<p>Leland Stanford Jr College is to west coast region like Northwestern is to midwest region.</p>
<p>ok its confirmed this person is a troll. we just need to ignore him. probably a stanford reject. poor kid. hes confused</p>
<p>Prestigous Ca schools</p>
<p>UC berkeley
Cal Tech
UC palo Alto( privatized Leland Stanford Jr Collge)
UC LA
UCSD
UCSB</p>
<p>Truth is painful.</p>
<p>every school is a GREAT school, if you can get the best out of it.</p>
<p>baba, if your grammar and spelling made sense, than maybe your pathetic insults to Stanford might work.</p>
<p>"UC Palo Alto" come on now</p>
<p>No-one can deny that Stanford is one of the top five schools in the country (HYPM being the others) and regularly competes for, and wins, the top students. Stanford's broad-based curriculum, with strengths both in the social and "hard" sciences means it can attract students that Yale (lacking in science) and MIT (lacking in everything but science) cannot. It doesn't surprise me that Stanford is equivalent to or better than Princeton in terms of cross-admit numbers.</p>
<p>I would still love to get my hands on cross-admit data for Stanford v. Princeton but I don't think that's possible. Also, the class of 2006 data is now outdated by three years. I'm guessing that with the switch to SCEA by the Big Three, Stanford will perform slightly better. Princeton's high yield rate is mostly due to its ED program. I'm sure that in RD, Stanford's yield is higher than Princeton's.</p>
<p>temple
bryn mawr
haverford
swarthmore
carnegie mellon
duquesne
and the two state schools, "penn state" and "university of pennsylvania"</p>
<p>You forgot Drexel</p>
<p>I excluded Drexel because it isn't competitive with Penn State and Penn. The others in the list are (perhaps not Duquesne or Temple).</p>
<p>Did you see the Gallup poll (most prestigious universities in the nation based on geography of population)? It said that Easterners think that Penn State is the #2 school in the nation. Guess they don't have access to the same statistics that you do, you fool.</p>
<p>you forgot Drexel which has better regional mix than Leland Stanford Jr collge.
How dare you. hay Penn State rocks Football is national pastime. Stanford and Notredame belong together.</p>
<p>I forgot NYU got 35000 applicants for 2009. by all logic that is the highest number of applicants two times Harvrad and Stanford etc among privates.</p>
<p>Baba, you talk a lot of nonsense. I don't think you can really say that Princeton is better than Stanford (or vice versa) in prestige, or any other area.</p>
<p>It is interesting that Baba's (unjustfied/ignorant) comments about Stanford are synonymous with those made towards Oxbridge by many people on these boards...</p>
<p>HYP is there . Stan Ford is a wanna be. With more than 50% enrollment from coming from CA/west, it is a regional player. Remember Harvard has less 25% from Noertheast and 15% from west.
I would guess Stan ford get may be around 5% from North east. Prestige is where students travel away from home and mom.</p>
<p>Prestige travel 3000 miles.</p>
<p>TopEast Prep Schools( Exter, Groton Milton)
Ivy: 40%
HYP:15%
Stanford: less than 2%</p>
<p>Menlo School, CA (2002-2004)
IVY: 70
HYP:35
UCB:62
Stanford:40</p>
<p>Even a top CA school feeds 2 times to IVY and 1.5times to UCB.</p>