<p>I have a couple of questions about Stanford undergrad students making it to medical schools.</p>
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<li><p>What is the median GPA for a typical premed?</p></li>
<li><p>What is their admit success rate, i.e., how many apply each year and how many get in?</p></li>
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<p>Trying to help a friend’s kid decide between Stanford, Harvard and HPME. Knowing some stats will be helpful.</p>
<p>texaspg, I have looked around, and haven’t found anything definitive online. There’s plenty of anecdotes (of no known veracity) with estimates ranging from the mid-70% to 90+%, but I don’t know if the actual figures are published. (Do the other colleges under consideration publish them?) You or your friend might try contacting the Stanford Premedical Association tomorrow, since they would probably be able to answer the question. [Stanford</a> Premedical Association](<a href=“http://premed.stanford.edu/]Stanford”>http://premed.stanford.edu/) Good luck to your friend’s kid!</p>
<p>Thanks zenkoan. I was hoping someone in the know might provide some numbers.</p>
<p>Down to Harvard and Stanford. Where are the stanford supporters to push Stanford stats?</p>
<p>Stanford----70% to 80%
Harvard-----94%
Princeton —90%
Yale----------90%
College average is about 48%</p>
<p>Check with every school. They have the records. I checked with career services during admit days.
Good luck.</p>
<p>texaspg, when contacting authoritative sources for the information you seek, it’s essential to get enough data to make meaningful apples-to-apples comparisons. At a minimum, you will need to know whether the expressed percentages apply to a single year, or whether they represent averages over a specified period of years, and to identify the overlap in medical schools to which each school’s undergraduates applied in each relevant year. The data only has a chance of being statistically valid if you are comparing the same time periods and the same targeted medical schools. Cheers.</p>
<p>AFAIK, no such (released) stats exist for us to push. Sorry, texaspg ;)</p>
<p>I was under that impression too, phantas, but I was giving Beyond the benefit of the doubt, as I tend to do with all posters in these forums until given reason not to. (I did just have a look at Beyond’s posting history, and he or she sometimes posts as a student and other times as a parent in various forums on this site, so who knows what’s up with that.)</p>
<p>I think that he will be a parent-student at Yale in a few months. :)</p>
<p>I was at Stanford’s admit weekend on saturday and attended their health career advising session. Here are some numbers they were willing to share. No print outs were given, so I may be slightly off. For 2011, around 297 undergrads applied and the percentage who got in was around 80%. The would not give a exact number. 44 out of 297 were admitted to Standford med school, a good number to UCSF and other California schools. 20 something to Yale and 20 + to columbia. Out of 44 admitted to stanford 22 accepted stanfrod. They did not share numbers about harvard, Penn or Johns hopkins. They said do not feel comfortable sharing any other kind of statistics like MCAT/GPA. I was quite disappointed as MIT shares this very openly, and my daughter was looking to compare the two schools. They repeated over and over that standford med school prefers thei own undergraduates and teh residency program prefers their own medical graduates and undergraduates. They also mentioned that they do not pre-screen undergraduates from applying to medschool. They will recommend anyone who wants to apply which would account for a lower admit percentage.</p>
<p>is HPME guaranteed for med school? Someone I know turned down Stanford for one of those 7 year combo medical degree guranteed program (in virginia ). The only negative thing I see is everyone at Stanford is at the top of their game so there would be a lot of pressure to stand out.</p>
<p>thank you dallumom. I understand there is a library where this information accessible to stanford students but this particular presentation by the dean of med school was missed by the kid making the decision.</p>
<p>Has your D decided?</p>
<p>fallparent - HPME is guaranteed with a 3.2 UG GPA.</p>
<p>Here’s the data from AMCAS:</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/157998/mcat-gpa-grid-by-selected-race-ethnicity.html[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/157998/mcat-gpa-grid-by-selected-race-ethnicity.html</a></p>
<p>Note that your med school application will ask for your overall GPA and your STEM GPA. Note too that your state of residence has a huge impact on your chances for admission. There are states like CA where being in-state is worse than useless. There are other states that have a 30% admit rate for residents who apply to their in-state medical schools (and the average GPA and MCAT score reflect the in-state bias, and end up skewing the AMCAS tables above.)</p>
<p>A guaranteed program is hard to pass up if he/she is 110% sure of the medical field.</p>
<p>I know 4 personally who got into different combined programs this year. Only one is going to HPME (out of 2) and the other three are choosing either Stanford or Harvard.</p>
<p>It is not uncommon for students of this caliber to decide they can get into medicine if they want to later in order to go to the undergrad school of their choice.</p>
<p>Well…then the choice needs to be based on money and fit. This guy who chose virginia was getting $100K in scholarships/grants as well to pass up on Stanford. Also another person chose Berkeley over S, for premed…due to the money factor.</p>
<p>“For 2011, around 297 undergrads applied and the percentage who got in was around 80%.”</p>
<p>How many of the 297 are graduating seniors?</p>
<p>“Well…then the choice needs to be based on money and fit.” </p>
<p>There is no solution that fits all.</p>
<p>Different people make different choices which don’t depend on money either. I have never understood fit and so I won’t comment on it.</p>
<p>I know someone who could has the following choices who does not qualify for FA and prices based on merit scholarships - 8k (program in 60s), 16k (top 10 in engineering), 30k (top 20 school), and 5 top 20 schools with 60k/yr price tag. The kid is choosing 60k price tag school because the parents are willing to pay. </p>
<p>Another person who is fullpay and parents can afford any school, got into 3 top 20 schools (one at 30k) but the parents said take the cheapest option, a state school giving lots of money for national merit, dropping cost to 8k. </p>
<p>A third person has similar choices as the first, is choosing a 60k school too.</p>
<p>Laks - are you trying to figure out how many graduated in 2011 vs earlier? I heard out of 22 that are at Stanford, only two graduated in 2011. We don’t know about the other 22 who did not accept the offer.</p>
<p>^ Something like this would be helpful: Out of 297 applicants 100 were graduating seniors.</p>