<p>Hi everyone... I hope to study Business... and i'm sure that I'll persue an MBA when i graduate... However I'm not sure what to do in the meantime...</p>
<p>I could go to penn and study business straight off...
I could go to stanford or Yale and do Econ undergrad....</p>
<p>In terms of undergrad experience... town... campus... weather.. people...professors.... Prestige.. and actual education whats my best option??</p>
<p>are there any other Uni's I should consider</p>
<p>If you can make it in, lol, Wharton is the best.</p>
<p>Wharton is the best in business. If you can get in, go there.</p>
<p>Penn, of course. Why would you go to Yale or Stanford?</p>
<p>Harvard. In terms of business, econ, history, etc. majors at Harvard are preferred by employers over Wharton grads (close second). The education is more well-rounded and less cut-throat.</p>
<p>For Undergrad? I’d think that Wharton MIGHT be better than Harvard, but I’m not too sure about that, and it really is all up to a personal fit. Honestly speaking, if you get into both Wharton and Harvard, and are able to maintain high grades, then it shouldn’t really make a difference.</p>
<p>But yes, for the three schools you said, Wharton is definitely the way to go for undergrad.</p>
<p>“For Undergrad? I’d think that Wharton MIGHT be better than Harvard, but I’m not too sure about that”</p>
<p>Yes, for undergrad. Harvard is better than Wharton.</p>
<p>One benefit of a Wharton undergraduate degree versus a Harvard or Stanford Econ degree is that an MBA would generally be considered redundant and unnecessary.</p>
<p>This also may be of interest re Wharton undergraduate:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/undergrad/reports/WHA_2009cp.pdf[/url]”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/undergrad/reports/WHA_2009cp.pdf</a></p>
<p>I really don’t know that an undergraduate business degree anywhere is considered the same as a MBA. </p>
<p>Please provide data which shows that the starting salaries of Penn Wharton Undergrads is the same as Penn Wharton MBA graduates.</p>
<p>“One benefit of a Wharton undergraduate degree versus a Harvard or Stanford Econ degree is that an MBA would generally be considered redundant and unnecessary.”</p>
<p>Where in the report does it suggest that most Wharton undergrad end up not pursuing a MBA? All I see is that about 6% pursue grad school right after graduating from college, but this doesn’t have much (if any) relevance to whether Wharton undergrads end up pursuing MBA.</p>
<p>^ See this:</p>
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<p>[Wharton</a> Undergraduate: Top 10 List](<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/undergrad/why-wharton/top-10-list.cfm]Wharton”>Your Future - Undergraduate)</p>
<p>Two things to note:
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<li>How do we know that Harvard undergrads don’t act similarly? It’s a given that many Harvard undergrads makes it in finance without the MBA; it could be true that 2/3 of Harvard undergrads going into finance never pursue MBA as well (by moving up directly or by not aiming that high, not everyone, even at Harvard, try to make $1mil/year when they reach 40, you know).</li>
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<p>Look at the Wharton undergraduate curriculum. Over the 4 years of Wharton undergraduate studies, you take basically the same coursework as the MBA program plus liberal arts. That explains why an MBA is generally redundant and unnecessary. Of course, there are Wharton graduates who choose to get an MBA anyway due to their personal circumstances but they are in the minority.</p>
<p>Also read the report - the 6% who chose to go to graduate school after graduation from Wharton generally did not go for MBAs though a few continued on at Wharton to get MBAs in different areas than their undergraduate degree (a possible reason to pursue an MBA later). For the most part, they continued on to the best graduate or professional schools in the country, including Harvard, Yale and Columbia Law Schools, Stanford for engineering…</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with a Harvard or Stanford Econ degree as an entry to Wall Street but they’re not business education.</p>
<p>First of all, this thread has nothing to do with Harvard.</p>
<p>Also, I have been under this impression that at Stanford and Harvard, and to a lesser degree Yale, undergrads are neglected over the graduate students…
So wharton is the easy pick.</p>
<p>^^You’re right, the OP never mentioned Harvard. He only mentioned Yale and Stanford along with Wharton. I agree that for business, Wharton would be the best choice. </p>
<p>The choice for the OP (if he’s fortunate enough to be able to choose among these three schools) might come down to other factors he asked about: “undergrad experience… town… campus… weather… people…professors… Prestige.”</p>
<p>I am familiar with the Wharton Undergrad program.
However, similiar coursework is not the same as similiar economic benefit.</p>
<p>Unless graduates of both the undergraduate and graduate programs have the same employment opportunities including the same salary ladder, the degrees are not equivalent…</p>
<p>…and since we are dealing with business school I would suppose that a reasonable educational goal is to qualify for a high paying job.</p>
<p>Again, where is the data that the starting salaries are the same?</p>
<p>No one ever said that the starting salaries for undergraduates and MBAs are the same. Look at the report showing undergraduate starting salaries. They’re lower. MBA graduates typically have several years of business experience and start at a higher level. However, Wharton undergraduates are able to progress into the same positions over time without needing an MBA.</p>
<p>Wharton MBAs I have met have referred to Wharton undergraduates as the “really smart ones” because the vast majority of the MBAs would not have been accepted into Wharton for undergraduate.</p>
<p>So as I see it Wharton can be considered the best option (god willing I get accepted) for a business career… </p>
<p>But at the same time its wierd how all the other top universities don’t have business undergrad… I mean why is it only Penn?</p>
<p>Penn has historically been more pre-professional than the other Ivy League schools other than Cornell. It’s consistent with the philosophy outlined by Benjamin Franklin:</p>
<p>“As to their STUDIES, it would be well if they could be taught every Thing that is useful, and every Thing that is ornamental: But Art is long, and their Time is short. It is therefore propos’d that they learn those Things that are likely to be most useful and most ornamental. Regard being had to the several Professions for which they are intended.” </p>
<p>Among the Ivies other than Penn, only Cornell has an undergraduate business program (in its College of Agriculture and Life Sciences). Princeton offers a finance certificate.</p>
<p>I quess I don’t get it. and I confess when I went to Penn I didn’t get it either.
The Wharton undergrad degree seems to be rated very highly by those who apply to wharton and who are in Wharton. However I have never seen the data that it is easier to land a well paying job when you are graduate of the Wharton undergrad program. And at least when I was at Penn, the best professors associated with Wharton taught at the graduate and not undergraduate level.</p>
<p>Seems to me that if you get better jobs with higher salaries with a MBA than with an undergraduate business degree that you should probably just get a BA and then go on and get your business training with a two year MBA graduate program.</p>