Starting over?

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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<p>I graduated from high school in 2004 with a 3.30 gpa and then went into community college, where I spent the next four years ruining my gpa. Now I am considering applying to a different community college as a freshman, rebuilding a strong gpa over the next 2 years/year and a half, and then using that transcript to apply to a four-year-university. Will the university be able to see the information/transcripts from the first school, even if I don't mention them in my application? I'm concerned about any information that may be tied to my social security number. </p>

<p>Thanks in advance.</p>

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<p>Can't do it.</p>

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<p>Im preety sure you cant do that.</p>

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<p>they can easily use your SSN to see every community college you've attended in california. Also they'll be quite curious about the 4 year gap without any school you had since you graduated from high school. Try to spin your situation into a positive one. Use academic renewal and an upward grade trend to show that you're not the kid that fooled around in community college anymore.</p>

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<p>search academic renewal and rising grade trends in respect to admissions. you'll be fine.</p>

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<p>Ha, funny! I'm doing the exact same thing also. Btw there is a federal law that says you cannot be denied the same rights as others because you do not fill out your SSN ;) I fortunately only slacked off for 1 year( got a 2.5ish), but now I have a 3.7 GPA at my CCC so hopefully this trainwreck works and berkeley is lazier than I'm hoping</p>

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<p>Don't set yourself up for disappointment... I've only heard about competitiveness at Berkeley.</p>

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<p>why not just just "restart" your college career by retaking the classes you screwed up the first time? that's the beauty of cc's, it will replace the previous grades. Honestly I would laugh at you if you spent two years getting good grades just to not only get rejected from ucb for omitting info but actually barred from enrolling at any uc.</p>

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<p>Do not this so lightly. If you fail to disclose any information ( including a complete history of ALL the colleges you attended ), the UCs can immediately revoke admittance during student application audits.</p>

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<p>I've actually thought about combining the two colleges together, but my gpa would sink so much and you only get the new grade if your previous grade was under a C- usually. I'm just worried that all the work I've done and all the effort would be lost when a college admissions counselor looks at my previous grades and atuomatically throws me out. I understand it's my mistake but I was 18 and new in college and didnt have any maturity. Now I'm a whole different person but that doesnt matter to them too much unless you have like poverty/ hardships. If I did combine I wouldn't get in, so a slight chance is better than none...</p>

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<p>They will easily found out, almost all schools use National</a> Student Clearinghouse: Degree verification & enrollment verification. Just retake classes you might not be able to get the best UC , but you can work towards a better grad school</p>

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<p>You say that you have matured since then, but it doesn't look like it if you can't admit your mistakes. You're simply sweeping them under the rug and pretending that you have always been mature. There are plenty of people like you. UCs consider upward trends. </p>

<p>There is a 10% chance that your application will be audited, in which case you will be caught and banned from the entire UC system. In addition, if you are caught after graduation via the clearinghouse, your degree will be revoked.</p>

<p>It looks like you're jumping into an un-calculated risk. Weigh your options more thoroughly - this decision is more important than you think.</p>

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<p>grey's right.
i'm in the same boat, thatswhatshesaid.
F's, D's and plenty of W's first two years followed by 4 semesters averaging 3.75 with an increasing course load. unfortunately, two C's received 4 years ago bring it down to a 3.47, but come on.. you (and i) did something far against the odds and, from what i hear, they look kindly upon that. besides, lying makes you a little b1tch.</p>

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<p>Why do people even consider doing these type of things? I've heard stories of people doing this and getting accepted. It pains me knowing that some applicants could be rejected because others had a more immaculate record because they KNOWINGLY hid information.</p>

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<p>Thank god for CC, else I wouldnt know about these implications. Being banned from UC is not on my to do list and looking at all the schools that use that National Student Clearinghouse, it's probabaly not going to fly. Also, I checked into it and if I combine my 2 GPAs it comes out to like 3.45, so that's not too bad. I just thought it was a scare tactic, not reality.</p>

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<p>I would never recommend or even suggest anyone doing this. Even if you are admitted your admission could be at risk. Even worse is your degree could be at risk if they find out in the future. The point is that nobody should attempt this at all.</p>

<p>Yes your grades aren't stellar, but there are soo many things that you can do now. Upward grade trends, begin to think about a field that you will want to study in, maybe doing something in this specific field.</p>

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<p>Colleges only care about past coursework because most students use federal financial aid to pay for it. The U.S. Dept. of Education has a lot of complicated rules about academic progress and the receipt of federal financial aid, so by requiring students to provide all of their past transcripts, the colleges are just covering their own butts with the DOE. But, if the student isn’t using federal financial aid, it’s a non-issue.</p>

<p>I just had a similar conversation at a college I had applied to. On the application, I checked NO for the question asking whether or not I was going to apply for financial aid. I reported all of the past colleges I’d attended, but submitted transcripts for all but one. The admissions office then told me that for me to be admitted they needed that one transcript. It was “the rules”.</p>

<p>I told the admissions officer that I did not have to submit that transcript, and she (again) told me that I had to if I wanted to be admitted. Clearly they had not paid attention to my application answers. I took a deep breath and told her that would be true IF I was using federal financial aid, but I wasn’t. HER WHOLE ATTITUDE CHANGED. “Oh, you’re not using ANY financial aid at all?” I told her no, and that I was prepared to pay out of pocket. “Oh, well, in THAT case, we have everything we need, and all you have to do is register!”</p>

<p>I’m not starting over, but if someone wanting to start over is willing to pay for it without using any federal financial aid at all, then they don’t have to submit transcripts of their old coursework. They don’t even have to list the schools. They can submit their H.S. transcripts and SAT/ACT scores (if they’re not waived due to age), and start as a freshman. If a school finds out, after the fact, that the student has credits from other schools, 9.9 times out of 10 they aren’t going to do anything about it. </p>

<p>Yes, the schools threaten suspension and/or expulsion if they later find out about the other credits, but that’s a scare tactic. Remember, they have to cover their butts with the DOE. If the student IS using federal financial aid, they WILL probably be expelled because, in that case, that student is essentially defrauding the government. BUT, if a student is willing to take classes on his or her OWN DIME, the schools don’t care. The student just can’t try to transfer the credits in at a later date, that’s all.</p>

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<p>Just forget about college and go into the workforce. Your lackluster performance and ethical ineptness won’t allow you entry into the middle class.</p>

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<p>If it is as important to you as it seems, I would definitely not lie about my transcripts. I am not in your position, but I think it would be a total cop out if you were accepted under false pretenses, while others that were honest about even a crappy past were rejected. My bf applied to the UC’s and listed all of his F’s, D’s and W’s, but because he had an upward trend (and a 4.0 for 2 years), he was accepted. </p>

<p>I think that if getting into a UC through hard work and honesty were a priority, you wouldn’t ask this question.</p>