STERN or CAS? chances for both?

<p>Hey, I've decided to apply to NYU ED. But I'm not sure if I should apply to Stern or CAS. Right now I'm leaning more towards CAS because Stern is harder to get into. I just want to get into NYU first and perhaps transfer into Stern later? Is this difficult?</p>

<p>Here are my stats.... do you guys think you could chance me for both Stern and CAS? Thanks :)</p>

<p>Will either be applying as:
CAS: Econ major, pre business studies minor
STERN: Finance
Race: Chinese
Sex: Female
Location: SF Area around CA
GPA: 3.6 unweighted, 3.9 weighted
Class Rank: 96/479 (top 20%)
School: public, sends many to ivies/UCs a year</p>

<p>Scores:
SAT: 1250/1600, 1920/2400
ACT: 30 composite, 34 Math
SAT II Math 2: 730
SAT II Bio: 620
SAT II US History: 560 (doesn't matter though, right? NYU only considers two highest)</p>

<p>Extracurriculars & Leadership
-DECA Club 2 years
-Top 8 in State at California State Deca Conference '05
-We the People (government civics debate team, simulates congressional hearings)
-Editor in Chief of Newspaper, News Editor last year
-Young Democrats Club Co-President this year
-Speech and Debate 3 Years Varsity Parliamentary Debate, One year officer
-Participated in Washington Workshops for a week
-Amnesty International Webdesigner 2 Years
-Class Council 1 Year
-1 year JV Swimming
-100ish hours of service</p>

<p>Teacher recs: excellent
Counselor: decent
Essays: good</p>

<p>Chance me? Also, any advice would be awesome about Stern/CAS/NYU/transferring to Stern in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance!</p>

<p>applying ED and not being able to choose a school is a bad sign. do you want to end up in stern?
also, your stats are decent, but being an asian female from cali is going to hurt you a lot :(</p>

<p>well right now I'm 99% sure I'm going to apply to CAS and maybe internal transfer to Stern. That's my eventual plan.</p>

<p>you probably will not get in via internal transfer since the competition is so fierce. yeah, freshman year's map courses will screw you over.</p>

<p>jadoreapples, plenty of people apply to cas thinking theyll end up at stern. out of all those people, i only know of 3 students who ended up at stern from another nyu school; one of from scas, another cas, and the last from tisch.</p>

<p>my advice would still be to apply early to stern. you will most likely be GSPed. after two years of cas coursework (and maybe one or two stern basics), its a guaranteed admission to the stern school. good luck. also, you should probably retake the sat in november. can't hurt.</p>

<p>I do not believe if you are not acepted to Stern that you get offered GSP. I think GSP is more an option for CAS folks.</p>

<p>sorry, but what is GSP?</p>

<p>I'm taking the October ACT with a goal of 32. :]</p>

<p>Accchhhhh....freshman MAP courses....acchhh I'm taking 3 of them this semester, and they're so much work than they're worth....I actually picked the right kind of professor for natural science though....but otherwise, they're more work than they're worth.</p>

<p>Just do CAS and then take some stern courses. That's what I'm doing.</p>

<p>Yeah, that is the exactly the same thing I want to do. My application is similar to yours, and the fact it, we are seriously low on the scale in terms of GPA and SAT's. I am applying to CAS Early Decision for Political Science (and maybe Economics), because I am strong in that area. I would have applied to Stern, but my Math grades last year were very poor, and high math marks are pretty much needed for Business School.</p>

<p>I was honestly pretty lazy junior year, which is the reason I can't apply to Stern. But I am looking to excel in CAS, and hopefully transfer. But what I've read around here, that is extremely difficult. Either way, I'll go to CAS for Political Science and Economics, and see where I go from there.</p>

<p>GSP is only offered to early decision (and possibly international) applicants who obviously expressed strong interest in nyu but do not have the stellar grades/scores to back up their applications. so, they are offered a 2-year spot in the General Studies Program where they take MAP requirements (Morse Academic Plan)-a sort of core curriculum at nyu, a few electives, and maybe squeeze in one or two stern core classes. sometimes, GSP students are required to do summer 'prep' coursework prior to the star of the fall semester.</p>

<p>contrary to what hsseniorlooking thinks, many stern-bound students are in GSP because they know they will ultimately end up at stern, it doesnt require any sort of 'internal transfer' application..its automatic admission.</p>

<p>it's all a marketing thing with nyu because they don't want to include GSP students' statistics on their undergradute profile, thereby avoiding further reduction of SAT scores/GPA statistics.</p>

<p>thanks for defining GSP for me, biggyboy. does that mean if I do the GSP program, I'll graduate from nyu in 6 years?</p>

<p>some misconceptions of GSP that i see in this post</p>

<p>1) all applicants can be potentially be deferred to GSP. it does not matter if you are ED or international</p>

<p>2) you complete the GSP equivalent of MAP, mearning you do not take CAS's core requirements</p>

<p>3) this one i am not sure about, but GSP Stern students are significantly less than normal GSP.</p>

<p>to the OP, if you want to do that, just get a GPA above 3.75 and u shud be set. take the map classes and classes like calc.</p>

<p>no. 2 years of GSP + 2 years of stern (potentially) = 4 years of college. regular decision stern applicants are usually never GSPed. if anything, they are put on a waitlist.</p>

<p>I'm confused--do I have a good chance of getting GSP @ Stern? the worst thing for me would be being rejected from nyu... right now I'm doing everything I can to just get in.</p>

<p>zangetsu--raise my HS uw gpa to 3.75? or do you mean college gpa?</p>

<p>i know someone with a 1300 who was GSPed (stern-bound) who applied early. though, a 1250 seems low. i guess you can shoot for cas but really make sure your essay is great.</p>

<p>I'm actually going to submit my ACT score instead, as it is much better than my SAT score. I also plan on taking this month's ACT and hopefully getting a 32 to boost my chances.</p>

<p>Provided everything else checks out, 1250 is pretty much an in for CAS. I got in on a 1290 (out of 1600, 1940/2400).</p>

<p>umm its definitely not an 'in'</p>

<p>I would NOT count on an internal transfer because very few spaces at Stern open up, and the competition is extremely fierce for them. Remember also that ED at NYU is accept/reject only, there is no deferment. Just a question: Why are you so hell-bent on NYU? There are many other great schools nearby.</p>

<p>you can be placed into the GSP if you apply ED as well.</p>