<p>But my undergrad of Carnegie Mellon isn't nearly as well off. We're only slightly higher than the Princeton Theological Seminary. ;)</p>
<p>STAY ON TOPIC!...STEROTYPES!.....
-Harvard:Wizz kids who are usually miserable at Harvard but graduate and start working for Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan</p>
<p>-Yale:Rich boys with trust funds who just so happen to score 2400 on their SATs</p>
<p>-Dartmouth:The average college where you are given the chance to display your full array of ideas</p>
<p>-Brown:Everyone who goes there has a scholarship</p>
<p>-Princeton:Recruited athletes who have 4.0 GPAs and 2250 on their SATs</p>
<p>-Upenn:The insecure ivyLeague school because they know they shouldnt really be a part of the ivy league but still are</p>
<p>-Cornell:.....</p>
<p>-Columbia:The school thats full of New Yorkers who are reasonably well off...most of them graduate and become leading businessmen</p>
<p>Here are the stereotypes I've heard:</p>
<p>Harvard - The epitome of elitism (HAHvuhd).
Yale - Rich kids who paid their way in.
Princeton - Everyone thinks they're Einstein because he did research here.
Columbia - People who go here actually like the school for what it is.
Dartmouth - Big frat scene, lots of drinking, great academically especially for undergrad.
Brown - Most laid-back ivy, happiest students.
Penn - ZOMG OVERRATED ON USNEWS.
Cornell - Easiest ivy to get into, hardest to transfer out of. Lots of academic competition.</p>
<p>Harvard - really smart, hard-working, kids who just chose Harvard for the brand name
Princeton - sons and daughters who have country club memberships, drink cognac, own 4-5 yachts, and whose parents are CEOs of fortune 500 companies
Columbia - Hippies
Yale - i dont know
Dartmouth - smart but also cool kids who drink/party much
Cornell - just smart
U Penn - very professional</p>
<p>Harvard- Elite out eliting te elite. Not super friendly.<br>
Yale- Less elitist than H, more "real" than Harvard, great education, New Haven not the best
Princeton- Preppy Ivy, great undergrad, solid social scene.
Dartmouth- Woodsy, fun loving, party laid back Ivy with great undergrad, LACy Ivy
Brown- Liberal, laid back, Ivy
Penn- Black pants Ivy, NYC/ Long Island contingent is huge, parties, pre-professional
Cornell- Science-y, rural, beautiful, BIG, research oriented
Columbia- Intense, not much campus life, great core curriculum</p>
<p>my impression:</p>
<p>Harvard- the most brilliant kids (not that others don't have brilliant kids) who love the sound of HARVAAAD. don't get a crap once in the school
Princeton- elitist unite, preppy, rich family background (therefore a little snobby...eh), stuck up
Yale-the most 'normal' of the top three ivies (HPY)
Dartmouth- laidback, heavy greek scene, undergrad focused, friendly atmosphere
cornell- easiest to get in, hardest to stay in...pressure cooker
brown- the most laidback of the ivies
penn- preprofessional (think wharton...might as well change the name to wharton)...biz oriented
columbia-most nerdy of the ivies</p>
<p>is harvard graduate school as impressive as its undergrad school? acceptance to hahhhvahhd's undergrad obv holds a lot of weight, but most ppl seem to agree they are more graduate focused... so does that make its grad program as impressive, competitive, or help in job placement as much as the undergrad would?</p>
<p>The 8 ivy's were all marooned on a desert island. Harvard appointed himself the president for life and set out to get everyone else to bow to him. Columbia started a newspaper for the residents of the island. Yale set up a stage and put on a show every night. Dartmouth distilled the juice from the island fruits and set up a bar. Princeton set up an exclusive eating club and invited the others to apply for membership, but had no food. Penn tried to get the others to trade between themselves and skim off a commission for himself. Cornell planted a garden to grow food while he was building a boat so they could all get off the Island.</p>
<p>Haha that's awesome.</p>
<p>Agree that Post #68 is wonderful.
In response to post #54. I have been involved in researching educational issues for over a decade. Probably the single most influential writer/researcher regarding colleges & universities is & was the recently deceased Loren Pope, author of Colleges That Change Lives and of Looking Beyond The Ivy League. He was the education editor for The New York Times. Loren Pope was well known for regarding most undergraduate Ivy League educations as being overrated--to put it mildly. Although not included in the most recent edition of Looking Beyond The Ivy League, Loren Pope rated & recommended schools in the first two editions published in 1990 & 1995. The chapter discussing & evaluating specific colleges & universities was titled A Few Favorites.... This chapter was deleted from the most recent edition since Loren Pope could not continue his practice of visiting each & every school & meeting with profs & deans before writing evaluations. Even in 1995 Loren Pope held the widely respected belief, based on an adult lifetime of research, that Chicago was " better than most Ivy universities." And that "Northwestern, like Chicago, better than most of the Ivies." found "Rice, another one that's better than most of the Ivies." And he remarked that "Stanford, in the academic world rated above Harvard in quality." Brown clearly was not one of his favorites. Loren Pope's favorite schools for quality of undergraduate education appeared to be Chicago, Northwestern, Stanford & Rice. While Brown was his least favored Ivy, Princeton was clearly his"...choice of the Ivy universities." The point is that even in the 1990s the nation's foremost authority on undergraduate education regarded Chicago, Northwestern, Stanford & Rice as offering a better undergraduate education than most of the Ivies.</p>
<p>Loren Pope's chapter gave brief reviews/opinions on approximately 200 colleges & universities. The above quotes were taken from the section discussing the nation's top 60 schools. Some comments were quite blunt & a bit harsh. For example, about one top 60 school he quoted a faculty member as stating that "the students here are not intellectually hungry, period!" And about another top 60 school that this college is "really a university, popular but no think tank." And his lengthiest review was on Dartmouth which "...has the reputation of being the most conservative Ivy school...". He was very favorably impressed by Hamilton College.</p>
<p>Typical sterotypes I hear are unfriendly, like to make things competitive, isolated from the world.</p>
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<p>You never disproved the main point between the differences in the school in student input and output....I don't think anyone here can argue that NW, Wash U and Chicago are as prestigious as the ivies, but w/e. </p>
<p>Anyway back to the topic..</p>
<p>Bescraze, go home and have the people you listen to post here instead. Nothing worse than someone who merely parrots what others tell him.</p>
<p>Looking at peer review assessment values grabbed off of this thread (I can't seem to find the actual listing anywhere for this year's data and pre-sorted the way I wanted): <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/412606-how-calculate-universitie-s-peer-assessment-score.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/412606-how-calculate-universitie-s-peer-assessment-score.html</a> we get the following:</p>
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1 Harvard 4.9
2 Massachu 4.9
3 Stanford 4.9
4 Princeto 4.9
5 YaleUni 4.8
6 CalBerk 4.8
7 CalInst 4.7
8 Cornell 4.6
9 Columbia 4.6
10 Johns 4.6
11 Columbia 4.6
12 Pennsylv 4.5
13 Michigan 4.5
14 Duke 4.4
15 Brown 4.4
16 Virginia 4.3
17 Northwes 4.3
18 Dartmout 4.3
19 Cal有os 4.2
20 Carnegie 4.2
21 NorthCa 4.2
22 Washingt 4.1
23 Texas輸u 4.1
24 Wisconsi 4.1
25 Rice 4
26 Illinois 4
27 Vanderbi 4
28 EmoryUn 4
29 Georgia 4
30 Southern 4
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<p>So, we can see that MIT, Stanford, UC Berkeley, Caltech, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Virginia (not quite sure which this is), and Northwestern all have higher PA scores than varying numbers of ivies.</p>
<p>PA is total garbage. These aren;t grad school ranks, they;re undergrad.</p>
<p>you say you went to Columbia or Northwestern...what sounds better. Nuff said</p>
<p>Same old, Same old...</p>
<p>racinrever duke at 14!! get the **** of this thread what type of garbage poll is that!?!? michigan at 13 are you retarded?</p>
<p>Northwestern or Columbia-which sounds better?</p>
<p>In the Northeast, Columbia. In the Midwest, Northwestern. In the rest of the country, neither really makes a huge impact, but people that are aware of top colleges and value the name brand associated with attending a good college will assign good scores to both. </p>
<p>There is not a measurable differences in the student quality of these two schools. Although very different environments for students, both are excellent colleges.</p>