Still NO Decision

<p>S waitlisted from Watson with 3.6 UW gap, 1310 SAT. He did get into Stony Brook and Buffalo engineering schools with scholarship $ which (if you believe USNWR) are better engineering schools anyway. Good luck to everyone choosing to go to Binghamton or wherever you end up!</p>

<p>DD was in the same boat last year. Rejected from Binghamton and now finishing up her first year at SUNY Buffalo and loving it. It all works out in the end. When I asked her if she wanted to apply to Binghamton as a transfer she said “absolutely not, I love it here.” And as someone already stated if your interested in engineering SUNY Buffalo is ranked much higher then Binghamton. Good Luck!</p>

<p>Cama, what is your daughter’s major at UB? I assume she finds her classes/professors to be generally very good.</p>

<p>Peppersmom,
Right now she is thinking about a concentration within the Communications major, perhaps mass media or PR. Most of her profs have been good, some better then others. If you have any other questions I wrote an extensive review. Just do a search for me on CC. Are you or your child considering UB?</p>

<p>Yes. My s was accepted into the UB engineering school and the honors college and is trying to decide between the two. He will be at the BU open house next weekend and is on his way to UB for a visit as I write this. UB seems very big, but has a well regarded engineering program while BU overall seems very good. He is still deciding what to do.</p>

<p>BingUstudent, I am not sure what crime stats you are looking at but what I find suggests you are not correct. “With a crime rate of 62 per one thousand residents, Binghamton has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One’s chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 16. Within New York, more than 99% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Binghamton.”</p>

<p>“Separately, it is always interesting and important to compare a city’s crime rate with those of similarly sized communities - a fair comparison as larger cities tend to have more crime. NeighborhoodScout has done just that. With a population of 46,996, Binghamton has a combined rate of violent and property crime that is very high compared to other places of similar population size. Regardless of whether Binghamton does well or poorly compared to all other cities and towns in the US of all sizes, compared to places with a similar population, it fares badly. Few other communities of this size have a crime rate as high as Binghamton.” Also "For Binghamton, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout’s analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in Binghamton is one in 164.</p>

<p>In addition, NeighborhoodScout found that a lot of the crime that takes place in Binghamton is property crime. Property crimes that are tracked for this analysis are burglary, larceny over fifty dollars, motor vehicle theft, and arson. In Binghamton, your chance of becoming a victim of a property crime is one in 18, which is a rate of 55 per one thousand population." </p>

<p>This is for the city of Binghamton not on campus. Also, students need to be aware of the crime in Binghamton so that they can be alert and prevent becoming a victim. Denying the problem is not helpful and likely to increase the problem while being careful will reduce it.</p>

<p>I want to stress that the crime rate does not have to be a problem because it does not refer to the university. It is the crime rate in the city. The university is in Vestal which does not have an elevated crime rate. Just stay on campus or be careful in Binghamton. Students involved in crime are usually living in off campus frats or apartments. The campus is appears safe. I’ve lived in the city and not had a problem but you just have to be careful. That is true for any economically depressed city, not just Binghamton. And as I said, the university is in Vestal anyway.</p>

<p>redsrule: Binghamton, New York was ranked the 5th safest city of its size to live in for the nation and 1st in New York according to this study: [Eighth</a> Annual Farmers Insurance Study Ranks the Most Secure Places to Live… – LOS ANGELES, Dec. 15, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --](<a href=“http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases-test/eighth-annual-farmers-insurance-study-ranks-the-most-secure-places-to-live-in-the-us-135661698.html]Eighth”>http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases-test/eighth-annual-farmers-insurance-study-ranks-the-most-secure-places-to-live-in-the-us-135661698.html)</p>

<p>~Rob</p>

<p>Yes that is correct. But Farmers rankings are totally irrelevent to students. Do you know what those ratings are based on? Education and being informed is important. So lets look at what the ratings you discuss are based on "The rankings, compiled by database experts at … took into consideration crime statistics, extreme weather, risk of natural disasters, housing depreciation, foreclosures, air quality, terrorist threats, environmental hazards, life expectancy, mortality rates from cancer and motor vehicle accidents, and job loss numbers in 379 U.S. municipalities. "</p>

<p>When you look only at crime, Binghamton crime rates are so elevated that they are nearly off the charts. But when you also factor in job loss and terrorist threats and house depreciation and foreclosures the numbers look great. But that is a totally inappropriate ranking to use to show families what the crime rate is in Binghamton. We want everyone to have the information they think that they do, right? We don’t want to obscure real facts behind ones that are irrelevant to paint an inaccurate picture. Nobody wants that right? Knowing the facts will help prevent problems.</p>

<p>But again, those statistics are about Binghamton not the campus.</p>

<p>still waiting for Final word by June 15.</p>