Stop the disproportional increases

<p>The cost of Winter Session - at least on campus - <em>is</em> something I am dissappointed in UDel over. I don’t know what the general practice is in schools which have a Winter Term or Winter Session, but I believe there is no cost for it at Elon or Middllebury.</p>

<p>I agree that winter session is priced very high. My D2 is currently taking classes at Community College while finishing HS. The thought is she will accumulate credits that will transfer to college. This semester she is taking her first online course. She is actually taking it through Delaware Tech. She is taking a math course. She hopes that if use gets in to Delaware, she will get the requirement out of the way. The cost of the class is very reasonable. If it goes well, she will take more CC classes while enrolled at UD. I figure this will be much cheaper than the Winter term.<br>
D1 did this while at her school, and will have enough credits to graduate in 3 1/2 years.<br>
Not sure if this info helps, but I thought I would share it.</p>

<p>For the sake of honesty and completeness, residents of the Christiana Towers are not required to register for Winter Session courses to remain in their apartment, nor are they charged a separate Winter Session housing fee. And of course there would be no fee if a student lived in off campus housing.</p>

<p>^Yes, I was going to mention this. S lives in the Towers, so Winter Session was more appealing this year since we didn’t have to pay an extra housing fee. Tuition is expensive, though.</p>

<p>The DD of a friend is a UD freshman (OOS) and is taking the required freshman writing class online during this break. The mom said it’s about $1200.</p>

<p>My DD is on a study abroad trip (gets home Wed night - can’t wait!). The $10K is about right (tuition plus program fee). You can look at the UD global studies website and see what the program fee is for various study abroad trips. There is a range - some are under $4K for the program fee, some are over $7K. DD’s was pretty much in the middle. On top of the program fee, there is also the tuition (same in-state and OOS disparity for study abroad). DD’s professors are getting some better deals on different activities than anticipated so there’s been at least three times when the students got back 150-200 Euro so DD hasn’t needed me to provide more spending money for food, shopping, etc. She is having a fabulous experience (I would be happy with less shopping, but she is in Italy so it is hard). She’s also getting six credits and fulfilling two requirements. </p>

<p>It would be great if she can do another study abroad at some point, but the cost is likely prohibitive for us.</p>

<p>That was a typo on my part - I did mean that the tuition was NOT included therefore making it even more expensive. I do understand that WS is not required but it is a long time for the kids to be off. A few older siblings of my son’s friends currently attend UDel and were bored when all their friends went back to other schools and they were still home. An online course is certainly an option as is working and study abroad. It is just that when you add any additional money to the already high OOS tuition it makes UDel less competitive.</p>

<p>There is a risk with attending any out of state public university that tuition will rise faster than for in-state students. After all, a public institution is going to give preference in pricing to the students represented by the state legislators who determine the university’s funding.</p>

<p>A valid point is made above that universities should set their tuition prices for the next school year before April, so that students can consider that factor in their May 1 decision. </p>

<p>At the same time, please realize that U. Del provides more merit and need based aid to out of state students than many other public universities. Many public universities provide little need based aid to out of state students unless they are minorities or athletes. U. Del doesn’t meet 100% of need for out of state students, but they try.</p>

<p>Tuition increases would not be an issue if everyone received the financial aid that they would like to have. </p>

<p>Here is another argument why UD’s tuition increases should not follow the pattern of other state universities. UD’s enrollment is about 64% OOS and 36% in state, while most state universities have the opposite proportion. As a result, UD generates much more revenue per student than the typical state university. Assuming 27K OOS tuition and $10K in state tuition, I figure that UD grosses an average of $4,700 more per student than other similar sized state schools.</p>

<p>Not to be argumentative helidad but I’m sure I see your point. If UD makes more per OOS student then some other schools, what would that fact alone signify? If Apple makes $100 off each iPhone and RIM makes $50 off each Blackberry, does that mean I should buy a Blackberry? That the value of an iPhone is less to me? Other questions might be what it spends on each student. Or what is the value of it to the students? </p>

<p>Delaware also has no state sales tax so I save over 81/2 % on all the food, clothing, textbooks and the myriad of things my D will buy during four years (plus what I will buy for her and myself on visits). Does that help round it out somehow?</p>

<p>As a full pay parent, I don’t think I will save $17k on taxes and clothing if my son attends UD.</p>

<p>No of course you won’t save that much, MD Mom. My comment was as much a non-sequitur as saying that since many NJ, PA and MD citizens come to Delaware to buy big ticket items, Delaware merchants should be obligated to charge less due to their greater profits on increased volume of sales. </p>

<p>If IU or UMich or PSU or UMinn charged a lesser percent more for OOS but take in two or three times the number of undergrads, should they charge less?</p>

<p>mhc48: My point is not that UD makes more per OOS student. My point is that because UD has such a high percentage of OOS students, UD collects a lot more tuition for the size of the school than does the typical state university. Therefore, maybe UD does not need to increase tuition in the same manner as other state universities.</p>

<p>Interesting 2/2/2012 “Delaware Online” article on college costs:</p>

<p>[State’s</a> colleges bracing for war on costs | The News Journal | delawareonline.com](<a href=“http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012202020336]State’s”>http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012202020336)</p>

<p>Here is an excerpt:</p>

<p>Over the past five years, however, UD students have endured tuition and fee increases ranging between 5.29 percent and 9.7 percent.</p>

<p>In a recent report to credit rating agencies, UD administrators told bond investors that further tuition increases could be sustained into the future as long as the institution’s image continued to improve.</p>

<p>“As we admit fewer weak students and replace them with more high achievers, we enhance our academic reputation,” UD wrote. “A university’s academic reputation affects how much a family is willing to pay for tuition.”</p>

<p>That trend shows no sign of slowing as UD continues the aggressive expansion and upgrade of its facilities.</p>

<p>UD’s costs for in-state students exceed the national average for four-year public schools by nearly 20 percent, according to federal data. The university, however, focuses more on how its rates compare to institutions in the region competing for the same students, said Jennifer “J.J.” Davis, UD’s vice president for finance and administration.</p>

<p>Although costs have risen, Davis said UD still provides value, an argument supported by its students’ track record of successfully repaying student loans.</p>

<p>My kid is graduating this spring. Tuition was 27K the first year. The increase is almost 11K in four years. Is that inline with other schools, I don’t know. All I can say is my next to go will be staying in state.</p>

<p>samiamy, sorry to ask, just seeking clarification. Do you mean tuition and room and board were 27k first year. I think tuition is 27k now. If the cost went up 11k over the four years, that is a significant increase.</p>

<p>UDel OOS tuition 2008-2009: $20,260 with room & board + fees: $29,604</p>

<p>[University</a> of Delaware Announces Tuition Rates for 2008-2009](<a href=“Log In ‹ CPA – University of Delaware — WordPress”>Log In ‹ CPA – University of Delaware — WordPress)</p>

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<p>yes tuition/room/ board was bit over 27K in fall of 2008.</p>