<p>“The fact is the Ivies are allocating spots based on ethnicity. So an Asian applicant is competing against the other Asian applicants and a White applicant is competing against the other White applicants.”</p>
<p>Thank you onecot59 - I have been trying to the exact point that the numbers are fixed upfront and the competition truly is within that range of seats that fit your profile.</p>
<p>OneCot59: That is one way of looking at it, of course. The end result is not what “others” do . . . it is what YOU do. What did you do? Did you present it well? That is all that matters; it is a competative world . . . always has been.</p>
<p>OK…late to the thread but I’m going to pipe in now.</p>
<p>Coolrunning…the OP probably presented himself JUST FINE to the schools where he did not get accepted. Those schools accept only 10% of the applicants. Simply put 90% or so receive letters denying them admission. In that 90% of rejections, there are plenty of well qualified applicants. The schools have only so many openings.</p>
<p>This OP got some fine acceptances to some very fine schools (and should be thrilled for them). </p>
<p>I say…let’s congratulate the OP on his excellent acceptances, and encourage him to move forward. There is no point in crying over spilled milk here. The Ivies are terrific schools…no doubt…but they are not the “only act in town”.</p>
<p>Onecot-thank you as well. There is unquestionably a quota system. Thing is for the 45% white a third of those are athletes and a third are well-connected folks so the chances for the non-athlete, not connected white dude is about the same as asians 15%.</p>
<p>Thing is too all this talk about ec’s, recommendations, essays is way over-done. They impact the 30% asian/average white dudes but for the other 70% mostly its hit this number on the sat and we’ll get you in.</p>
<p>This one of the better 2010-11, mega threads. And definitely wins the Best of the Annual, ‘Asian’ Not Accepted/reject/not compelling, threads.
There have been some slow points, but nicely and quickly revives stronger.</p>
<p>i still have no clue as to what Asians we are talking about. Tajiks, maybe?</p>
<p>(I’m Mongol-Semitic - does that count?)</p>
<p>Clearly, we are discussing Hawaiian natives, at this point, though, at one point it seemed we were sidetracked by the ubiquitous Tahitian question.</p>
<p>We Mongol-Semitics (Asians) don’t believe Tahitians should be counted as Asians, as their parents don’t work hard enough.</p>
<p>Yes, well, I have heard that most Pacific Islanders truly resent being categorized with Asians, particularly Hindustanis, however, the classification stands. Numbers don’t lie.</p>
<p>Samoans perhaps?</p>
<p>Yes. Exactly!</p>
<p>can all of you squabbling children TAKE IT OUTSIDE please? This is the PARENTS forum and none of you are acting like adults here, even if some of you claim to be. Enough already…</p>
<p>20more,
I do think you are being evasive on this thread. Many people have legitimately tried to analyze the reasons for your rejections, but unless I’ve missed it, you have refused to disclose which Ivies you applied to and what you have to offer other than your grades and test scores. None of that need compromise your identity. You can even explain your ECs in generic terms.</p>
<p>Look: the reality is that Every Ivy, without a single exception, found 20more and his four Uzbek friends unqualified, relative to other candidates, to be part of their freshman classes. Plenty of other Uzbeks, Tajiks, Formosans, Laos, Miens, Hmongs, Singaporeans, Kashmiris, Kurdistanis, Persians, Kazakhs, and Mongolians got in.</p>
<p>I’d think that’s a pretty clear message when NONE of them thought them qualified relative to other other applicants. Why, we can only speculate.</p>
<p>@Bay</p>
<p>I am not being evasive and please don’t concentrate on me.</p>
<p>I won’t be this upset (or in disbelief) if I was the only one who got rejected from all those schools. I am talking about all 4 of us and the trend (from my HS) I have been noticing over the years.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that we are all that weak (as a whole) to be rejected from every schools I mentioned before.</p>
<p>@mini
We are East Asians. Would you please stop mentioning Uzbeks, Tajiks, Mongolians…?</p>
<p>20more - who did get in from your school though.</p>
<p>Anyone out there want to join me in asking the moderators to lock this thread?</p>
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<p>You claimed you were shocked (“Unreal”) about your and your (Asian) friends’ rejections. What type of comments were you expecting to elicit by starting this thread?</p>
<p>“We are East Asians. Would you please stop mentioning Uzbeks, Tajiks, Mongolians…?”</p>
<p>Oh, changing your story. Your headline said “Asians” (I would have thought Mongolians ARE east Asians, but what do I know?) Formosans? Balinese? Laotians? Is discrimination (if there is any) limited to one particular breed of East Asians - and ALL of the Ivies, without exception, found you and your friends unqualified? </p>
<p>Anyhow, except for the headline, you didn’t really provoke this conversation. You simply said, “WOW. Unreal”. I neither am wowed, nor do I think it unreal. At any rate, you are going to get a great education, and, I hope, a credit to your institution.</p>
<p>Lock it!!!</p>