<p>red&blue: Your made up admissions stats are FAR from accurate. Especially for engineering: they're definitely MUCH higher.</p>
<p>columbia is a better school</p>
<p>Fact1: dcircle says columbia is a better school
Fact2: dcircle is always right and his word is law</p>
<p>therefore, Columbia is indeed a better school.</p>
<p>Well, I'm convinced. I'm filling out a transfer app right now.</p>
<p>^An outward bound transfer?
Keep on preserving those Penn traditions!</p>
<p>Ha whatever happened to "but I was wondering
without trying to say UPenn > Columbia or Columbia > Upenn, ".... (from the OP btw)</p>
<p>Anyways I think it comes down to personal choices, especially for undergrad. I personally liked Penn's campus more than Columbia's, would not want to live in NYC, and am also interested in biological sciences (prob pre med path), and so chose Penn. As for prestige tiers, after HYP (if it really matters) I would hazard to say that rest are really all about the same.</p>
<p>I thought Wharton advisor said that UPenn doesn't give out numbers individually for each school.</p>
<p>S Snack you are quite tiresome. You make lots of dismissive statements, and love to attack other schools but RARELY back up your rantings with any hard facts or decent data.</p>
<p>To show you how it should be done, here are a few facts:</p>
<p>For the Class of 2010 (admitted last year just so you understand this data)</p>
<p>Wharton: 475 / 3938 = 12.1%</p>
<p>College: 2,261 / 12,999 = 17.4%</p>
<p>SEAS: 775 / 2924 = 26.5%</p>
<p>Nursing: 112 / 391 = 28.6%</p>
<p>Now factor in a 17% app increase for Penn Engineering, 13% increase at Wharton and 7% each for CAS and Nursing and my estimate for Penn's Class of 2011 probably arent that far off - although I'll concede nursing is probably in the 24-26% range.</p>
<p>Either way, know one will no until Penn Admissions releases the facts.</p>
<p>In the future, you should come correct or keep your trolling underground.</p>
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<p>I concur.</p>
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I personally liked Penn's campus more than Columbia's
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<p>Funny, that's the one thing about Columbia that drives me ga-ga. Then again I'm a sucker for neoclassical.</p>
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would not want to live in NYC
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I would--for any time in my life other than undergrad.</p>
<p>Yea Columbia's architecture > Penns, by campus I was including general perceived atmosphere, etc.
As for NYC I personally think it's a little too much for me, course this is coming from a small city of ~300,000 on the west coast of canada</p>
<p>Bottom line: Yay personal choices</p>
<p>Red&Blue, do you have the most recent statistics for the admissions rates at Penn's individual colleges?</p>
<p>this thread is a year and a half old. red&blue hasn't been seen here in about that long.</p>
<p>don't bring threads back from the dead.</p>
<p>and your question is better posed on THE PENN BOARD, GENIUS.</p>
<p>Annenberg is better than Columbia Journalism? ***? Columbia, Medill (N'Western) and Mizzou are the best, by a long shot. Newhouse (Syracuse) isn't bad either.</p>
<p>Annenberg is the number 1 communications school in the country, Columbia Journalism is the best in Journalism, apples and oranges, relax. Bad comparison.</p>
<p>The Annenberg/Columbia J-School comparison isn't really a comparison at all, considering one is only offered at the grad level and not nearly as broad (Columbia J-School). Funny thing is, as great as Columbia J-School is supposed to be, the DP kicks the Spectator's a** all day.</p>
<p>^unfortunately I'll give you that :(. the spec is columbia's compost of liberal views and sensationalist news. To be fair though they do have some staunchly conservative writers who bring a bit of balance, save those and there'll be no credibility left. The comments tend to be right wing, cynical and realistic, so put them together and the online news is slightly better.</p>
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the spec is columbia's compost of liberal views and sensationalist news. To be fair though they do have some staunchly conservative writers who bring a bit of balance, save those and there'll be no credibility left.
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<p>The staunch conservatives don't become turncoats so they can be popular and get invited to the right dinner parties a la David Brooks and Bill Kristol?</p>
<p>any new insight?</p>