Stressed for Success?

<p>I don’t know if any of you guys have read this article on NY Times before, but college letters are coming soon, and it seems kind of appropriate; plus it’s pretty funny too : ]</p>

<p>Stressed for Success?
By DAVID BROOKS</p>

<p>Many of you high school seniors are in a panic at this time of year, coping with your college acceptance or rejection letters. Since the admissions process has gone totally insane, it’s worth reminding yourself that this is not a particularly important moment in your life.</p>

<p>You are being judged according to criteria that you would never use to judge another person and which will never again be applied to you once you leave higher ed.</p>

<p>For example, colleges are taking a hard look at your SAT scores. But if at any moment in your later life you so much as mention your SAT scores in conversation, you will be considered a total jerk. If at age 40 you are still proud of your scores, you may want to contemplate a major life makeover.</p>

<p>More than anything else, colleges are taking a hard look at your grades. To achieve that marvelous G.P.A., you will have had to demonstrate excellence across a broad range of subjects: math, science, English, languages etc.</p>

<p>This will never be necessary again. Once you reach adulthood, the key to success will not be demonstrating teacher-pleasing competence across fields; it will be finding a few things you love, and then committing yourself passionately to them.</p>

<p>The traits you used getting good grades might actually hold you back. To get those high marks, while doing all the extracurricular activities colleges are also looking for, you were encouraged to develop a prudential attitude toward learning. You had to calculate which reading was essential and which was not. You could not allow yourself to be obsessed by one subject because if you did, your marks in the other subjects would suffer. You could not take outrageous risks because you might fail.</p>

<p>You learned to study subjects that are intrinsically boring to you; slowly, you may have stopped thinking about which subjects are boring and which exciting. You just knew that each class was a hoop you must jump through on your way to a first-class university. You learned to thrive in adult-supervised settings.</p>

<p>If you have done all these things and you are still an interesting person, congratulations, because the system has been trying to whittle you down into a bland, complaisant achievement machine.</p>

<p>But in adulthood, you’ll find that a talent for regurgitating what superiors want to hear will take you only halfway up the ladder, and then you’ll stop there. The people who succeed most spectacularly, on the other hand, often had low grades. They are not prudential. They venture out and thrive where there is no supervision, where there are no preset requirements.</p>

<p>Those admissions officers may know what office you held in school government, but they can make only the vaguest surmises about what matters, even to your worldly success: your perseverance, imagination and trustworthiness. Odds are you don’t even know these things about yourself yet, and you are around you a lot more.</p>

<p>Even if the admissions criteria are dubious, isn’t it still really important to get into a top school? I wonder. I spend a lot of time meeting with students on college campuses. If you put me in a room with 15 students from any of the top 100 schools in this country and asked me at the end of an hour whether these were Harvard kids or Penn State kids, I would not be able to tell you.</p>

<p>There are a lot of smart, lively young people in this country, and you will find them at whatever school you go to. The students at the really elite schools may have more social confidence, but students at less prestigious schools may learn not to let their lives be guided by other people’s status rules — a lesson that is worth the tuition all by itself.</p>

<p>As for the quality of education, that’s a matter of your actually wanting to learn and being fortunate enough to meet a professor who electrifies your interest in a subject. That can happen at any school because good teachers are spread around, too.</p>

<p>So remember, the letters you get over the next few weeks don’t determine anything. Picking a college is like picking a spouse. You don’t pick the “top ranked” one, because that has no meaning. You pick the one with the personality and character that complements your own.</p>

<p>You may have been preparing for these letters half your life. All I can say is welcome to adulthood, land of the anticlimaxes.</p>

<p>That article is a breath of fresh air. I just wish that I could let go and not worry.</p>

<p>And don't think the stress is because you guys(and gals) are young adults...I'm in my 30's, worked a full-time career to support myself over the last 13+ years, while completing the first two years of college... and I'm about to "lose it" from all this stress. In the 32 years I have been on this earth, this is THE MOST STRESSFUL thing I have ever been through in my life...honest!!! Believe me, all of you are not alone. One of my biggest flaws is that I tend to over-analyze things too much. All I have been doing is telling myself that I HAVE to pick the "correct" school to complete my degree or my life will be ruined (we all know this is untrue, but that's the illogical thinking I've been going through lately)...Anyone else experiencing abnormal behaviors/thinking, lately???</p>

<p>Yes! I've been checking the mailbox religiously for the past week even though I know that I cannot really expect any letters for another 2 weeks.</p>

<p>** You learned to study subjects that are intrinsically boring to you; slowly, you may have stopped thinking about which subjects are boring and which exciting. **</p>

<p>Sad but true. In my school, math and science classes are strong but humanities are weak, so in forcing myself to do well in math and science I tricked myself into thinking I liked them, then realized I didn't. Then I had to do a lot of backtracking and catching up. If only I could have dedicatedmyself to a subject I love! This, I suspect, will be available in college.</p>

<p>AMEN to that!!! that is exactly what i felt since my junior year. that is also one of my reasons for applying to brown. i think i read this somewhere before also.</p>

<p>out of frustration to the mentioned topic, i wrote some informal satires about it. i love education and learning... i'm considering educational research right now, hoping to improve american education.</p>

<p>So true. There were times when I would have rather kept on reading history or psych class texts... but had to shut them because I needed to study for a math test... sigh. And yes, I've been checking that mailbox EVERYDAY!!! Today, there were huge winds, pouring snow FREEZING temps and the mailbox was iced shut!! I was like, NOOO, and worked on that thing until I finally pulled it open.... only to realize we had no mail. My heart stopped racing, my head hung low and I slowly walked to the steps, only to realize that I couldn't open the door because my hands had started growing icicles. (ok, so i made that last part up).</p>

<p>Haha- I'm in CT, too and I was quite upset when I discovered that the post office decided not to deliver the mail at all yesterday because of the weather.</p>

<p>similar article in today's projo</p>

<p>Providence Journal March 9, 2005
You can't judge people by their scores
Bill Caskey, a former Brown admission officer, tries to convince students and parents that SAT scores do not define who they are and how they will be evaluated.
(Free registration) <a href="http://www.projo.com/opinion/contributors/content/projo_20050309_09caskey.1bf28b8.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.projo.com/opinion/contributors/content/projo_20050309_09caskey.1bf28b8.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Unfortunately, Caskey is a "former" Brown admissions officer.</p>

<p>I love David Brooks.........</p>

<p>I only wish my/our parents could understand that HYP are not all there is out there.........I don't think they understand the concept of a college being right for me, they only want a TOP PRESTIGIOUS SCHOOL.....bla, bla, bla........</p>

<p>Anyway, enough ranting for me. There will be plenty of time for that next year, when I am really waiting for decisions</p>

<p>"Unfortunately, Caskey is a "former" Brown admissions officer."
HAhaha!</p>

<p>This article is very true. Even if i get into brown, i still might end up going to a 2nd tier public university becuase its a better "fit" (oh, yeah, and they are paying me.. but shhh)</p>

<p>you'll notice the myriad of 'ivies are overrated' or 'it's not the college that matters, it's your effort' posts and articles scattered across cc. while this is undoubtedly true, this entire site wouldn't exist or thrive as it does were it not for the consuming, addicting, and deeply engrained emphasis and stress on attending so called 'elite' universities. we can continue to write such revelations, but until the education system shifts its emphasis from test scores and creating an educational hierarchy to actual learning, the problems gonna persist.</p>

<p>Sad but true. We are all prescribing to the theory that one school will make us better than others because of ranking.
In the back of my mind I wish that kids would stop hoping to get into these schools because then it will be easier for me. Not Really</p>

<p>The reason I want to go to the "elite" schools is for the sort of people that attend such a school. They are intelligent and respect the search for knowledge at a higher level than many other student bodies might.</p>

<p>^^you are sorely mistaken, laurenemma, i think you'll find that there are motivated students everywhere, and that many elite schools are chock full of kids who for some reason or the other, dont really give a damn about learning. that statement actually reminds me of the character charlotte simmons from the book of the same name, which was amusing if not introspective.</p>

<p>I didn't mean that there are not driven and talented students everywhere. I meant that as the so called elite schools the general atmosphere may be a better learning envirnoment.</p>

<p>MAY is the key word... im sure we will find somewhere where we will be happy, if not... BRING ON the trasfer apps! :D</p>

<p>I know what you mean laurenemma. The reputation of a school is a form of guarantee. We expect a certain something from each school and the one we pick has to match our expectations the most. Sure there are intelligent and inquisitive students in a good state u, but why not up our chances of meeting more people like these a bit by attending a so-called "eilte" school? After all, other similar-minded individuals chose to attend partly due to its reputation as well.</p>

<p>I cannot agree even more with David Brooks on this issue. I have met individuals from "3rd tier state universities" that were far more talented than individuals who graduated from a Top 20 college. It's good to go to a highly-ranked college for perhaps meeting equally talented students, but wherever you go, you'll meet talented people - that can never change.</p>

<p>Very true, the top kid in my school is choosing to either attend UT Austin or Rice, both on scholarship. He would be a perfect fit for someplace like MIT. I know that Rice is an excellent school but he is likely to go to UT because his father is a professor and will have an in with all the science staff.</p>