Submitting recent SAT score

<p>This is probably my 3rd post in this group within the past week! Sorry!</p>

<p>I recently took the SAT for the 3rd time. I was hoping to bring up my critical reading.</p>

<p>1st time: CR: 620 M: 640 W: 730
2nd time: CR: 620 M: 720 W: 700
3rd time: CR: 640 M: 630 W: 660</p>

<p>1st and 2nd superscored: 2070
All 3 superscored: 2090</p>

<p>I already submitted my 1st 2 scores but not my 3rd. I asked my college counselor whether or not I should submit my 3rd score and she said not to (just emailed her back asking her why). Should I do as she says? I thought all they saw were the superscores. </p>

<p>The only thing weak in my application is my SAT scores :/ M and W in low-mid range, CR WAYYYYY low. Though my brother's saying that it's easier to get in via Peabody, especially because my ECs reflect my interest in my intended majors (want to major in Child Development & Cognitive Studies) Not sure I believe him. I think he's just trying to make me feel better haha.</p>

<p>High UW/W GPA, very rigorous classes, great (I believe) extracurriculars, and interest shown (ED, brother goes there, visited many times, doing interview, supplement ties into why Vandy is perfect for me)--if you want to see more info on this for some reason, view one of my old posts with me as the OP.</p>

<p>Did you take the ACT? My D scored 640 CR on the SAT then took the ACT and scored Reading 35 and English 35. If not take it, some students score higher on the ACT.</p>

<p>Saratoga, I would recommend the ACT as well but only if you prepare with the Red Book of real ACTs in timed settings. This would have to be a full on serious sacrifice of time during your busy senior year. One of my sons brought up his SAT a ridiculous amount in October senior year. He simply hadn’t prepped before. (even so he was hurt when he did not get into his crush college despite the odds being against all applicants…that was Dartmouth btw…his crush college)</p>

<p>I would also consider/ recommend stopping focusing on testing and patting yourself on the back for being a person who makes excellent grades and has the personal chops to learn beyond what testing predicts. We are all more than our test scores. Personality and work habits and motivation are factors in success in ways testing cannot measure. Vanderbilt used to admit 38-40% of applicants but we are in a radical change for Vandy with its no loans financial aid policy and national footprint.</p>

<p>I completely get that you love Vandy/Nashville and that your brother is rooting for you, and also that you can do the work. Vanderbilt is likely to get nearer to 30 thousand overall applicants this year for 1600 spots. </p>

<p>Sit down and make certain you could not be doing ED at another very special campus where the odds are more favorable, thus excusing you from the bother of RD rounds. </p>

<p>If you are very happy with your match college and alternative plans, by all means give Vandy your ED. </p>

<p>You deserve the absolute happiest best place to be for four years --where you can be admitted and that you can afford.</p>

<p>@opie12 and @Faline2
I’ve already taken the ACT 3 times… Highest was 30 (33 W, 31 R, 29 M, and 26 S)…
@Faline2 I visisted 3 other schools I was thinking about applying to ED–WUSTL, Pomona, and W&M. I like Pomona and W&M but not as much as Vandy (applying ED2 and RD to those).
Guess I better just hope they see something amazing about my app… (Though my life is going to feel like it’s over if I don’t get admitted lol)</p>

<p>Saratoga, I was not admitted to Wm and Mary as an OOS student 35 years ago and was really shocked. I was class salutatorian and my parents were Virginians…we didn’t realize that OOS students, especially females applied in high numbers and that there was a cap on OOS enrollment. I am too lazy to find the articles that are a couple years old, but Wm and Mary continues to garner a loyal OOS application pool of hopefuls and quite recently that was way more female than male. Please take a good look at the CC pages from last year’s ED rounds (you can go back to December 2012 to read postings here) at Pomona–a top ten liberal arts college–and from Wm and Mary…which is a public Ivy. </p>

<p>this quote appears to be from 2011 so out of date but the reality is that more females than males apply to many (not all) liberal arts colleges, so you need to dig deep into stats and to be realistic. Gender imbalance in applicants is a non issue for colleges like Vandy with a huge applicant pool but a more real issue for liberal arts colleges that want to keep gender somewhat even if possible.</p>

<p>"Does that mean that women applicants had a harder time winning a seat in William and Mary’s Class of 2011?</p>

<p>Statistically, they clearly did. A male applicant’s chances of winning admission to William and Mary last fall were about 1 in 2.5. A female applicant’s chances were about 1 in 4.</p>

<p>When William & Mary officials were asked by a reporter for the campus newspaper about this, they defended their selection process as fair, pointing out that all admits had comparable SATs, GPAs, and other qualifications. It’s not as if the College had systematically accepted male applicants with B averages while turning away women with A grades. All applicants were held to the same standards. Admissions were fair in that sense.</p>

<p>But girls who worry about admissions stories like this have a legitimate point, too. Maintaining gender balance in enrollments when applicant pools are unbalanced implicitly ties individual admissions outcomes to gender. If you have a larger pool of female applicants and a smaller pool of male applicants applying for roughly the same number of seats, it’s going to be harder for individual female applicants to win admission."</p>

<p>I just want you to investigate gender imbalance in colleges that get a large number of bright female applicants before you make your final decisions on how to handle your apps. You can find these numbers by going to each college websites and putting Common Data set in the search window to view numbers of applicants by gender. I do not know if Pomona has gender imbalance in applicants. I suspect Wash U doesn’t have gender imbalance as they have a very large applicant pool but dig in to the Common Data sets very seriously and evaluate.</p>

<p>The OOS cap in VA is about 30%. In NC it is 18%. At VA schools there is a belief that in general stats for OOS students are higher than for in state students. OOS students are very important for the budgets of our public Ivies since OOS students bring in needed revenue at full pay.</p>

<p>@Faline2 I just listed those schools to show that I DID consider other schools ED; I just happened to like Vanderbilt the best. I have other schools in mind (such as Tulane) just in case I don’t get into those.</p>

<p>Does anyone know if my college counselor was right in telling me to not submit those scores?</p>

<p>By submitting the third score, it makes your 2nd math score look like more of an outlier. However, I would still submit all the SAT scores.</p>

<p>@timetodecide12 So why submit all 3 scores if it’ll make my 2nd math score look like an outlier? Won’t that reflect negatively upon me?</p>

<p>Applying to Peabody used to be the “back door”, but admissions has wised up to that. If you can’t make an amazingly convincing case for Peabody, they will figure it out. Vanderbilt takes the common app and their supplement has no additional essay. It seems to me that recently they are very much about test scores and grades. I wouldn’t say it’s the only thing they’re looking at, but high numbers warrants further review of applications. ED1 and ED2 are tough these days - either admit or deny, no deferral…I would say ED is easier to get in, but ED2 will attract a lot of people who didn’t get into an Ivy league school in December and are freaking out. People will tell me this isn’t so - I know - but I’ve been through this 3 times recently and one of my best friends is a college counselor at a very good private high school.</p>

<p>Vandy superscores and claims that they only look at the superscore. I would submit it.</p>

<p>saratoga, I think the benefit of sending the highest superscore outweighs any perceived disadvantage</p>