<p>Someone was telling me that if you go to a junior college in California for a year, and then apply to the UCs, you'll have that in-state residency and I was wondering how that really works.</p>
<p>My other question is that what type of stats would you need to get into a school like Berkeley or LA if this was to work. Thanks.</p>
<p>Well, for sure, you can go to a California Community College for two years, establish residency that way, and then transfer to a UC school as a junior. This is a surefire way for US students, not sure how it works for International students, may be more complicated.</p>
<p>I've heard of people being admitted to UC school as an out-of-state student, taking a year off to go to community college and establish residency, and then returning to the UC school as a resident. This is more complex, you'd have to research it very carefully, I would think. Also getting into the top UC schools as an out-of-state student is difficult to begin with.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know that would work, but you would need the top grades in the year or two that you are in the community college to get into a school like Berkeley?</p>
<p>And wait really? I've never heard of that one before. So it's possible to apply OOS, get in, take a year off, go to the community college to establish residency, and count as a resident?</p>
<p>Yes, you need quite good grades at community college to transfer. There is a UC Transfer board on here you should check it out.</p>
<p>The story I heard was someone applied OOS, got in, attended for a semester, took a year off at a CC, then went back as a resident. Not sure of the details, have no idea if it is true, have no idea of the rules involved. Getting into Berkeley OOS is very difficult, though, to begin with. If you are a student good enough to do that, you'd have no problem making straight As at a community college in CA.</p>
<p>I'm not sure it's so easy to set up residency in CA. See this:</p>
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To be considered a California resident for purposes of fees, an out-of-state student must have lived in California for more than one year preceding the residence determination date, relinquish residence in other states, show an intent to establish residency in California and demonstrate financial independence.
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<p>Would that mean it'd be at least 2 years?</p>
<p>from the Berkeley web site - in addition to the physical residency requirements
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Financial Independence Requirement
If your parents are not residents of California for tuition purposes or if you were not previously enrolled in a regular session at any University of California campus prior to Fall 1993, you will be required to be financially independent in order to be a resident for tuition purposes. If you are an adult student and your parents are not California residents, you must demonstrate financial independence, along with physical presence and intent, when seeking resident classification for tuition purposes. You are considered "financially independent" if one or more of the following applies: (1) you are at least 24 years of age by December 31 of the year you request residence classification; (2) you are a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces; (3) you are a ward of the court or both of your parents are deceased; (4) you have legal dependents other than a spouse or a registered domestic partner; (5) you are married, a registered domestic partner, a graduate academic student, or a graduate professional student and you were not/will not be claimed as an income tax deduction by any individual other than your spouse or domestic partner for the tax year preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification; or (6) you are a single undergraduate student who was not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the two tax years immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification, and you can demonstrate self-sufficiency for those years and the current year.
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<p>California does seem somewhat easier to establish residency for tuition than some states.</p>
<p>Oh ok, and usually what kind of stats would a person coming in from a community college need to get into Berkeley?</p>
<p>It depends on the major, but you're looking at a 3.6++ for most majors.</p>
<p>I've been working pretty hard all throughout hs with my ECs and APs. I don't think I'd get into Berkeley OOS, but if I do make it one of my top choices, do you guys think it'd be worth it to just go to a community college to fill up the prereqs and then have a much better chance of getting in?</p>
<p>Or would it be more of a waste and I should direct my attention to other places?</p>
<p>I think a careful reading of Swimcatsmom's post says that your CCC plan will not work unless you fall into one of the six categories.
Haven't you got a decent state U. of your own to go to?</p>
<p>I don't see why it wouldn't when it says for a single undergrad student as long as the income taxes aren't claimed by my parents for two years...</p>
<p>And no, I have no interest in my state universities, which are UNR and UNLV.</p>
<p>If I were you, I'd seriously consider it. If you are a pretty good student and work hard, it isn't too difficult to get near-perfect grades at a California community college. Frankly, if you can't get near-perfect grades at a California community college, Berkeley coursework is going to be over your head anyway. </p>
<p>Working in California will help a lot in establishing residency, I think that is the gist of what Swimcatmom's post says. You need to show how you are living in California without parental support. Tuition, etc. at a comunity college is so low, though, it wouldn't be hard to establish that.</p>
<p>So you believe it's a good idea?</p>
<p>Wouldn't it be that a lot of my high school work is wasted though? Since it's a CC, it wouldn't be as hard to get in and that would mean a lot of things I did were unnecessary. Doesn't really mean not worth it because of the knowledge I gained, but overall workload and everything seems a bit too far for entering a community college at first if I were to choose this route.</p>
<p>All of your High School work would be 'wasted' in an admissions sense. There have been people who have received a GED, enrolled in a CCC, and went on to transfer to Berkeley.</p>
<p>And, to the difficulty of transferring to UCB as a CCC student, a 4.0, and some relevant ECs, internships, etc, are needed for a shoe-in status, which is what you suggest you are seeking. Though, there still does exist some contention on the aforementioned based on which department your major lies within, and other niceties.</p>
<p>It depends on where you want to live and where you want to go to school. If you want to live, after school, in California, you should go to a California university. If you are planning to live and work in Nevada, you probably should go to a Nevada university. It also depends on your major. Business major at Berkeley is extremely difficult to get into as a transfer, if that is your plan you may need to rethink things. There are lists available of the Berkeley website of admission rates for various majors for transfer students. Study that carefully.</p>
<p>Getting into a California CC is automatic, as long as you are 18 or a high school graduate. You will probably find that most of the students at the CC are not academically at your level, too. It's a trade-off. if you want the full freshman experience, CC isn't going to give it to you.</p>
<p>Then what would you suggest?</p>
<p>I'm not sure that with my stats I could get in OOS, but to the other UCs, I think I could.</p>
<p>I do know that transferring from other UCs is harder.</p>
<p>OOS tuition is extremely expensive. If you are willing to pay that much, you probably should just find yourself a nice private college to attend. It doesn't make sense to pay OOS tuition unless if you are going to Berkeley or UCLA, and even then it doesn't make much sense except for some majors (engineering, physics, etc.)</p>