<p>Yeah they dont just dismiss you. Probation first. And even then you do get to appeal. That said, cant assume it was just pressure from exams. We dont all go through the same things. =(</p>
<p>Rest in peace, Henry Treadway.</p>
<p>I just want to post something here in response to a pattern I am seeing. This is a tragic event, but the assumption that he killed himself over grades is troubling to me.</p>
<p>People do not kill themselves because of grades. There is much more to it than that. The stress and pressure of finals/grades and such can push an already hurting or damaged person over the edge. An otherwise mentally stable or healthy person would not turn to suicide simply because of grades. </p>
<p>People who are in pain can be very good at hiding it, making it such a surprise when something like this happens. It is sad he did not reach out or someone caught on before he took his own life. Far too young to be gone.</p>
<p>^^ this. i remember feeling so depressed at one point sophomore year and had a fleeting thought of what it might be like to not be on this planet and deal with all the **** that often comes with it. It was not my happiest time in life and sometimes when you have multiple things that dont seem to be going in any semblance of the direction you so desperately want, other alternatives seem more attractive…anyway,enough of my rambling.</p>
<p>did anyone here know him personally? i checked out his fb page and he seems like a really genuine guy from what i can see of his profile, and he had so many close friends…i just wish he had talked to someone…its true what BerkeleyorBust say, I think often times people who feel the most pain are really the best at hiding it…im sure there were no tell-tale signs of his pain-im sure any of his friends would have stepped in otherwise.</p>
<p>this is so depressing. i literally cried for 2 hours when i saw this on my computer last night when i woke up from a nap at 2:30ish. needless to say, did not progress with studying as i had planned last night and only began again this morning. i dont even know the guy, but all today every so often ive just kept picturing things that must have gone on in his head just before and how scared/alone he must have been feeling.</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p>Yeah, this may have been preventable on part of the school, and I say this literally only because the windows are straight up open (I think, I’ve never lived in the dorms, but I heard someone say that its really easy to open the windows wide). Even putting a wire mesh would probably deter students - just like putting a little higher a guard rail on bridges deters potential suicides. I think Cornell had suicide problems because of their nearby gulch or bridge or something, but I think they kind of took care of it.</p>
<p>The windows in Towle open outwards and leave maybe a foot of space at the most. He could’ve used a screwdriver to mess with the window and make it open wider, but the school is not at fault here.</p>
<p>I’m going to say some very important things, so please don’t just gloss over this post.</p>
<p>I’m one of Henry’s suitemates and best friends (I refuse to talk about him in past tense). I can say, on behalf of his friends and family, that all the condolences and sympathy are well appreciated.</p>
<p>I must ask, however, that all the speculation about the reasons and the way he did it stop. Out of respect to both Henry and the situation, please keep uninformed, even if well-intentioned, speculation out of this thread and off the internet. </p>
<p>Again, on behalf of everyone close to Henry, thanks for the support and positivity.</p>
<p>[UC</a> Berkeley student dies after fall from dorm window in apparent suicide | The Daily Californian](<a href=“http://www.dailycal.org/2012/05/09/student-falls-from-unit-2-dorm-window/]UC”>UC Berkeley student dies after fall from dorm window in apparent suicide)</p>
<p>Why did he feel like he had no other choice? Why did he feel so alone? I’m sure he had friends and family who loved him, why didn’t he ask them for help? Was he afraid or something? This makes me feel so sad since a childhood friend of mine did the same thing when I was a kid. Sigh I know all too well what it’s like to feel alone and to think you have no one to turn to… May he rest in peace wherever he is now.</p>
<p>It’s sort of hard to talk to people about suicide. A lot of people think you are just super depressed and just saying that or that you’re just joking. Even your best friends have a hard time taking you seriously. If you looked at that FB status, everyone just went into denial and concluded that he is safely in his room.</p>
<p>There was a suicide in my high school as well and the guy posted on his status about a week ahead of time. People just thought it was a joke and laughed with him or told him to feel better.</p>
<p>This is unbearably sad. I too cried when I heard and have not stopped thinking about it. I cannot imagine how it must be for his family and friends. I offer them my sincerest sympathy and hope they find the strength to cope with this.</p>
<p>RIP indeed. poor soul. condolences to the family…</p>
<p>I am truly heartbroken over this… Please anyone who is feeling this way, talk to someone. Reach out to a parent, friend, other grown up you can talk to… You are not alone. You are never alone.</p>
<p>To Henry’s family and friends, may god carry you when you feel you can’t go on. May He give you strength. May you carry the good memories of Henry with you always, and may you feel the love, support and empathy of everyone around you during this difficult time. Henry is in peace now and I believe he is resting in the arms of the angels. May he rest in peace and may god bless all of his family and friends.</p>
<p>this is sooooo sad :’ [ i’m crying aww i cannot believe this. there were times when I felt the same way but turn to your friends please or find something that makes you want to wake up to. As much as I used to care about pleasing people, it no longer matters. Live for yourself and go for what you believe in.</p>
<p>My deepest condolences to Henry Treadway’s parents. May the grace of God comfort you and give you strength. You will be in our prayers.</p>
<p>this is so disturbing… there must’ve been other choices that he could have made instead of ending his life. i’m sure he had issues, but… (he knew his parents would be devastated).
my sincere condolences to those who knew him and loved him so much. RIP Henry.</p>
<p>Does Berkeley have a suicide hotline? I think there needs to be be a well publicized number that a student in crisis could call.
Also, a campaign to familiarize people with subtle (and not so subtle) signs of possible impending suicide and how to respond, would be helpful. Students need to be encouraged to follow through if they suspect something is wrong, and not worry about appearing foolish. Much better to call to check on someone and find they’re ok, then to miss the person who really needs help.</p>
<p>I was thinking about that too. like about the parents thing…but then again, my parents are like never there for me. So if I decided to do the same, not sayin i am, but if i did, they’re not really on the top of my list of people who care about me. you know…i call them sometimes and my freshman year especially when i needed them the most, they were never there for me and acted more immature than me and just made me feel worse. so i stopped calling. this year, i’ve gotten better at being more independent without them but i feel like your family should always be there for you, not just financially, but emotionally too. the few times that i call them this year, they always say they’re too busy and have to go. so that just kinda bothers me that people can be this way. i feel like some of my friends here at berkeley have become more of family than my real family, which i’m so thankful for but it’s tough.</p>
<p>of course, though, it just makes me a stronger person in the end.</p>
<p>^oh my god I’m so sorry…That’s terrible. At least you have your friends but still, damn. I used to complain about my parents always trying to be super involved with my life, but when I hear stories like these about bad parents, it really puts things into perspective for me.</p>
<p>This year has been very hard on the top colleges- Harvard, Stanford are also dealing with this. Here is an article on dealing with college stress </p>
<p>[College</a> Stress - How to Reduce College Stress](<a href=“http://collegelife.about.com/od/healthwellness/ht/Stress.htm]College”>10 Ways to Reduce College Stress)</p>
<p>Above all, at the risk of sounding cliche, it does get better every year one is in college and your success in life isn’t determined by a low grade in high school or college. </p>
<p>This is the resource center at Berkeley [UHS</a> Tang Center](<a href=“http://uhs.berkeley.edu/lookforthesigns/depressionsuicide.shtml]UHS”>Clinical Depression | University Health Services)</p>
<p>Everyone who can’t understand this, that’s just it. You can’t understand. I’m not saying I understand him either- I didn’t know him, and no one will know what was going through his mind but him- but it’s never just about grades. It’s about everything, and feeling so lonely and depressed. But so much self worth is based upon how well you’re doing, if you’re making your family proud, and I can tell you that every time I personally mess up in school, don’t get an essay done on time and have to beg the teacher for an extension and hope they will believe me that I am depressed and not just making it up- I hate myself so badly I really do think I’d be better off dead. Mind you, that’s as far as the thoughts go for me personally, and I don’t think I ever would kill myself (I have too many people who love me and who I’d break), but… the worst thing possible is to hate yourself.</p>
<p>I’m so sad for the friends and family of Henry, and I hope they can find some kind of comfort, somewhere. As unlikely as that is. My brother, who goes to Cal (I hope I can go to Cal one day, I’m currently appealing, long story) texted me when this happened, asking me if I’d ever do this. I wouldn’t, but the fact he cared was- incredible (we haven’t always had the best of relationships, to put it lightly). So just… try to always let people know that you love that you love them, and that if they mess up, it’s not the end of the world- you can always try again, there’s always another way.</p>
<p>Blah, I have no idea if this made any sense, this post is basically all Feelings. Ya…</p>