Summer Programs - Discussion

<p>Yes, I tried searching the thread but couldn't find much. I wish I could attend CMU's program but I'm too young, and it's too expensive. I mostly just don't want to end up applying to only super competitive programs. So far I've narrowed the list down to:
OCU: MT workshop
MPulse: MT workshop, Theater and Drama Academy, and Vocal Arts Institute (There's only one application fee no matter how many programs you apply to, so I figured I'd try applying to all three)
NCSA: Drama
Boston Conservatory: Vocal Choral Intensive
Broadway Theater Project
Virginia Commonwealth University: Theater Intensive</p>

<p>I realize some of this has been covered, so please forgive me. I understand that MPulse and the NYU CAP 21 programs are quite selective. I was wondering if anyone had information about the difficulty in getting into the Northwestern Summer Theatre program. Many kids from my D's school have gone, so I have the impression if you're a solid student a you have good essays and recommendations you have a good chance, but I was just wondering if others knew of students with that kind of profile who did NOT get in. And also if applying early admission gives you a leg up. Thanks!</p>

<p>Anybody have any information re: the above post?</p>

<p>HSN: You are correct that MPulse and NYU/Tisch's CAP21 summer programs are very selective (though MPulse has an audition and Tisch doesn't). CMU, on the other hand, seems like it is not hard to get into if you apply in a timely manner. As far as Northwestern's Cherubs program, I have had several students attend and all have gotten in. My niece also got in, though chose to go to BU's summer program instead. HOWEVER, each of these students was a very good student. That doesn't mean everyone would be admitted! It is too hard to state what profile would not be admitted but I think if one has strong academics in their profile and the various elements asked for on the application are also strong, the chances are quite decent of getting into the five week program. The two week MT extension involves an audition tape and while each of my students who wanted that, got into it, again, I think one would need to be strong but it is not that difficult to get into if one is strong. (contrast this to BFA programs where you can be very strong but still denied admission due to the very low admit rates.....Cherubs is not like that). I think the odds likely are better in their earlier round as more slots are likely available. However, be aware that if you are applying to several summer programs, I recall some students hearing back from Cherubs in that round before hearing the results of their other summer program admissions and they had to make a decision about enrolling before knowing the other results. For these kids, they were very happy to attend Cherubs and so that was fine with them. You'd have to decide whether to apply in that round depending how high up your D's priority list Cherubs is, should she be admitted before hearing back from some other programs. That said, every kid I have known who has attended Cherubs, has loved it and gained a lot from it.</p>

<p>Thanks, soozievt. It sounds like my D would be a good candidate for Cherubs (she's a strong student) so between that and CAP 21's much lower admit rate, she should be covered. But, out of curiousity, how did your niece like the BU summer program?</p>

<p>My D has been told by friends who have done this program that kids are placed with students who match them in size. I guess it has something to do with sharing uniforms? And are there uniforms---that sounds so weird to me in a pre-college program. Also her friend said the strange thing was that roommates tended not to just be the same size but similar looking, so that it was fairly easy to figure out who roomed with who. This sounds quite odd to me, does anyone know about this?</p>

<p>I do not believe there are any uniforms for Cherubs! I have only heard of uniforms at Interlochen's summer program. At Cherubs, maybe there are guidelines as to what they need to wear, but I just don't think it is an actual uniform. I haven't heard of the roomie thing either but you'd have to ask someone who attended about that but it doesn't make any sense.</p>

<p>My niece loved the summer theater intensive program at BU! She chose it over other ones she got into. She is now in a BFA Acting program.</p>

<p>PS...if you look at photos of the Theatre Arts program at Cherubs on their website, nobody is wearing a uniform and for that matter, are not dressed alike.</p>

<p>S attended Cherubs i(7 weeks) n 2006 and it was an exceptional program for him going into senior year, even though he attended a strong performing arts hs. There were no uniforms for the program and no pairing of roommates by size or anything else! There were great faculty and college student TAs from strong MT and acting programs throughout the country. Two college students from Carnegie Mellon who served as his TAs were very helpful in hosting him and introducing him to faculty later when he was applying to CMU during 2006-07. Obviously, the college students change every year (the faculty are relatively consistent and very strong). However, his perf arts acting and MT high school teachers strongly recommended Cherubs and our sense is that it was one of the things that made a very positive difference, not only with Carnegie Mellon where he's a soph now but in his college audition prep overall. There are lots of good programs out there for summer and this one is among them. If it works for the summer before senior year, it's likely to be a very good experience but lots of work!</p>

<p>"We are considering the following titles at this time: Sweeney Todd, Carousel, Lady Be Good, Cinderella, Children of Eden, Hairspray. The final choice is dependent on several variables, and may or may not come from this list."</p>

<p>oooo interesting</p>

<p>Does anyone know when you are likely to hear from Broadway Theater Project about acceptance? Also, I'd appreciate any information anyone has on the competitiveness and quality of the University of the Arts program. It seems to be open to anyone who registers, so I just want to make sure that the quality is there for the money you are spending. Thanks!</p>

<p>Just a note about the Cherubs program at Northwestern. My D attended this program the Summer of 2003. She graduated from NYU-Tisch in May of 2009. It is interesting to note that from her class of Cherubs, approximately 26 applied and all were accepted into NYU-Tisch. I cannot confirm that all attended NYU. </p>

<p>I don't know whether Cherubs had anything to do with their admission, just possibly an interesting anecdote regarding college application and acceptance. Also, there are a number of working actors who have attended this program.</p>

<p>That being said, if anyone knows of any summer music theatre programs which do not look at gradepoint, I would be interested in those. Our youngest D, now 16, attended UofI's musical theatre summer program last year; she did very well and is now looking for a more intense summer program that will accept someone just completing their sophomore year. This D's problem is that she is dyslexic and her gradepoint is not nearly as high as her big sister's was and what they look for at many programs. She is working on bringing it up so that she may have an opportunity with Cherubs, CMU or Boston Conservatory during her summer between Junior and Senior year. </p>

<p>Our Midwest children seem to enjoy the east coast for some odd reason. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. </p>

<p>As a side note, it I do have to say that not only was my oldest daughter's roommate approximately the same build as she was, tall and medium-size bone structure, they even looked alike. People couldn't get over it!!</p>

<p>Some summer MT programs where the GPA is not going to matter much (or in some cases, at all) are: OCU, Ithaca, UArts, CAP21 (the one NOT through NYU), Syracuse, Broadway Theater Project, Stagedoor Manor, French Woods Festival, Perry-Mansfield, Walnut Hill, Interlochen, Circle in the Square. </p>

<p>BOCO....same thing....but it is a Vocal/Choral Intensive, not really MT....I have a student who has attended and another who is applying.</p>

<p>Look into the CAP21 Pre-College Program. This is the one through CAP21 itself, not NYU. I did this program a few summers ago and I am PRETTY sure they didn't base most of their decision on grades (it was mostly based on the audition). Unless something has changed...</p>

<p>But this is a great program and definitely look into it.</p>

<p>soozievt,</p>

<p>You are a wealth of information. Thanks for the suggestions. I will give them to our daughter. She is in charge of researching and choosing programs that appeal to her. I will copy your post and e-mail it to her. She will be so happy to see there are so many possibilities.</p>

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<p>This may sound really stupid but:
As I'm filling out applications, a lot of these programs ask for a repertoire list of songs. What exactly qualifies a song to be in your repertoire? Can it just be all the songs you are able to sing right now, or do you have to have performed them?</p>

<p>I was wondering if anyone could help me. I am looking for a summer intensive that caters to post-high school graduates and college students (I'm 19). I want to find something that isn't going to break the bank, but provides excellent training. I don't want something SUPER selective because I don't really know what level I am at but I don't want something that takes everyone. Also, preferably something from the Northeast since I am from NJ.</p>

<p>Here is a little of my background in case it helps:</p>

<p>I dance at BDC and Steps in NY and took classes throughout high school
I was in a performing arts high school as an acting major
I attended the Saturday program at the American academy of dramatic arts for a semester
I have done a lot of community theater
I was in a BFA acting program for a semester (not a super-competitive one) but left because I felt it was not challenging me enough and I was wasting my money. Now I have a free ride at another school where I am currently a music major (non-audition).</p>

<p>If anyone can help me make some decisions that would be wonderful. Any tips for a theater/musical theater/dance summer intensive would be appreciated.</p>

<p>mmmaia: Singers commonly have a "rep book", which consists of songs they have performed or worked on. It isn't necessary to have done the songs in a show, but singers have the entire song memorized, and be able to perform it when asked. A rep book is usually taken to auditions, so that auditors can hear additional selections if necessary. So a repertoire list would consist of songs in your rep book.</p>

<p>Since you live in NJ, you could save money and commute to the city and do the summer intensive at Circle in the Square Theater School, as opposed to residential programs. It really is a very good program and you are the appropriate age and background for it.</p>

<p>Thanks onstage, that's what I thought :)</p>

<p>Yes, I commute to the city almost every day for classes and such. Ugh, it's such a painful commute! But I am strongly considering applying to Circle In the Square but in case I do not make that, I want to have some back-ups. I am looking into the American Academy of Dramatic Arts' summer program, but I would rather focus on more musical theater training. I also sent in my application to Straw Hats, but I did it rather late so I do not know if I will be granted an audition. We'll find out! </p>

<p>Any other suggestions?</p>