What specific public health guideline are they adhering to by mandating the vaccine? There exists no guideline suggesting public institutions mandate the vaccine in fact any that were have been lifted.
Is your child going to attend a SUNY in the fall or is currently there? Or are you here to just start a vaccine debate Which I’ll state for the third time I’m not interested in having yet you keep attempting to initiate one.
This is the policy at SUNY Purchase - The SUNY Student COVID-19 Vaccine Policy (the “Policy”) remains in effect and requires all students who will have a physical presence on campus to provide evidence of, at minimum, the initial course of COVID vaccinations. Pursuant to the Policy, students are considered fully vaccinated for the initial course of vaccination: (1) two weeks after receiving the second dose in a two dose COVID-19 vaccine series or (2) two weeks after receiving a single dose COVID-19 vaccine.
The student can apply for an exemption which involves review by the team in charge of this policy.
My kid currently attends and I would say from last time numbers were released it is over 90% are vaccinated so for this campus people are willing to stay vaccinated to attend.
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I’m so thankful Bing mandates vaccines of all types. My kid is at Bing, so hurray, I get to comment on this thread! I love it when ANY college cares more about health than politics! I AM THRILLED that my vaccinated son and his smart, intelligent friends, who go to parties and bars, still bother to get vaccinated because 1.) they care about not getting other people sick, and 2.) they would prefer not to get sick themselves.
Now obviously, kids at Bing are still going out and having a great time, as anyone who has been to downtown Bing on a Friday or Saturday night can attest. And obviously, people who are vaccinated can still get covid. But my son and his friends would prefer to be well enough to attend classes and get their work done, as well as go out and party.
Like most colleges that require certain vaccination requirements be met, Binghamton is sensibly trying to reduce the spread of illness and the subsequent chaos that mass numbers of people being sick can cause. That seems like a great idea to me! I’m all in favor of students being vaccinated if it means fewer professors and other adults at the university get sick. I’m all in favor of my kid being in class with his cohort, rather than missing classes or having to return to zoom school. I love that professors at Bing might take some comfort in knowing that the college wants to protect community health.
Binghamton educates smart kids who go on to be scientists, doctors, entrepreneurs, leaders and many other professions. So to answer your question,
my answer would be my son absolutely attends Binghamton and would probably say that there is no logical reason why a college requires vaccines for any other communicable disease that kills people, but wouldn’t require it for covid. In fact, if he wasn’t already at Bing, I think he’d actively avoid a college that doesn’t mandate students be up to date with all vaccines because he would think that college isn’t terribly concerned about the health of the college, its students, and the people living in the community.
I’m happy I was able to provide some feedback to your question.
So if bing stops mandating the vaccine would your son stop attending as you say he would avoid schools that don’t have the mandate in your last point?
Also are we talking about the same vaccine? Which Covid vaccine prevents you from getting sick as well as getting others sick as you say in your points 1 and 2?
No, he wouldn’t stop attending because he is in his last semester of college.
Wondering if you are planning to take night classes at Bing? Or are you asking on behalf of your kid? If it’s for you, you might not want to enrol because there aren’t a lot of mature students. If it’s for your kid, maybe they can decide.
My D23 is vaccinated but had a relatively serious reaction after one dose as well as a normal but uncomfortable reaction after both doses (like having the flu that lasted for several days). I appreciate that SUNY is not requiring a booster because I would rather not have her get a booster and go through that again.
She applied to SUNY ESF, and unfortunately they share a lot of resources with Syracuse U which requires the booster. I’m not excited about that app because of the booster but it’s her choice.
I have an older D who developed a sudden chronic medical problem out of the blue days after the vaccine, and vaccine reactions in our family have generally been worse than our covid infections so I have a clear bias and would probably prefer a college without mandates because I wouldn’t want any kid to be forced into getting the vaccine against their will and having a bad reaction, especially a kid who has covid already, but I understand people wanting to avoid infection, especially anyone with a child or family member with comorbidities that would put them at risk for a more serious outcome.
I apologize @Vac2672 if you misinterpreted what I said. I’m quite sure I didn’t say it will prevent covid. I will be more clear.
According to science and the dictionary, a vaccine is defined thus:
“a substance used to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen, typically prepared from an inactivated or weakened form of the causative agent or from its constituents or products.”
As we are aware, the vaccine doesn’t prevent covid, but according to a little research, the covid vaccine generally stops you from getting really sick or dying, and helps prevent the spread of the disease to vulnerable people.
So is this post about my knowledge of immunology, or is it about “Will my kid attend Bing because it currently has a covid vaccine mandate?” I know quite a lot about Bing, but I failed out of my first year of med school, so…
And I’m sorry to hear about your children’s reactions to vaccines @MACmiracle but I personally know 4 people who died of covid, so I hope this thread stays on topic about SUNY’s and will our child attend with the vax mandate.
Anyway, I suggest we all stay on topic. RIT is a private university and can make decisions without consideration of a wider network of universities to which it is tied.
Luckily, I am definitely in the category of people who have a vested interest in seeing more kids matriculate to Binghamton. This is because I want to see Bing’s reputation continue on an upward trajectory. The more healthy people there are at my kid’s school, the more they can spread the word about Bing. And colleges on an upward trajectory attract good students, and good students attract good professors. I like thinking of the big picture.
I thought this was a thread about whether or not parents and kids are concerned that SUNY’s have a covid vax mandate. So if your child prefers RIT, he is all set.
I also know several people who died of covid and a couple with long covid so I am not just thinking selfishly of my own children’s experience. That is why it’s such difficult topic for me.
In my area, it is mandated at every college. For families that want to avoid the mandates, they will have to be flexible on where their children attend college and that may come with additional cost.
I also think it is not unreasonable for minor children, especially teens to have input into a medical decision that could effect not only the health of their own bodies but their future educational opportunities. I tend to think, even with our experiences, that the educational impact is actually bigger than the medical one for kids. I have three children who were impacted by school policies regarding the vaccination and I told them I would support them in their decision because I did not feel comfortable either withholding it or forcing it.
You as the OP have asked twice, so I hope it’s considered on topic to answer.
There are many studies that show covid vaccines prevent some infections. If some infections are prevented, that helps decrease spread. Here is one study:
The fact that the covid vaccines prevent some infections and transmission is in addition to the data showing decreased hospitalizations, long covid, and death.
That is why covid vaccines are recommended as part of CDC’s vaccination/public health protocol and why some institutions and some businesses have chosen to follow those recommendations.
Those are the institutions I want to attend/recommend to students/support and the businesses I want to work for/support.
Everyone should research various college requirements before making a decision on where their kid should enroll.
College requires a semester (or more) of phys ed or requires the ability to swim a lap across the pool to graduate? College requires EITHER taking their health insurance OR proving that you otherwise have insurance… but the option of going uninsured is not possible? College does not allow freshman to bring cars to campus? College requires a HS diploma or comparable before matriculating? College does not allow students to have pets in the dorms?
There are lots and lots of requirements that have nothing to do with vaccines- and on every campus there are kids who object to, complain about, can’t stand a particular requirement. Oh well. Communal living is different than sleeping in your own bed under your own roof.
You want to smoke in bed in your own home? That’s on you. But don’t try it in a no-smoling dormitory where you are risking the lives of 499 other people.
That mirrors the experience of my family - with two different vaccine brands. All of us had unexpectedly strong reactions to each vaccine dose, specially when compared to virtually everyone else in our circle.
Frankly I rather found it reassuring that my immune system’s intense reaction was only to the mere (short-term) presence of the “profile” of a non-existing virus. Imagine how more worrying it would be if our body had to put up a prolonged fight to an actual virus roaming around, without having already been “primed” by a vaccine and recurring boosters.
Some in my family managed to escape infection (despite some very close, lengthy exposures), while two people who did have CoVid had very mild cases.
I think our cases (including our two) fall within the well-documented and rather expected result, that vaccinated individuals typically benefit from a shorter/less severe illness - even after (or because?) our vaccine reactions had been strong(er).
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