<p>Does anyone know anything about esf? I'm deciding between esf and another school...are the studetns isolated from the syracuse students? is the weather horrible? how are esf students in general?</p>
<p>My S was accepted there although he will not be attending. We went on a campus tour last fall. The campus is small but directly adjacent to Syracuse U. You would dorm with Syr. students as well as take classes at Syr. My impression at the time was that the school as well as the students were very serious regarding environmental issues, for example you are chastized for walking on the lawn by other students. If this is where your heart lies you would do very well by attending as students benefit from the Syracuse relationship immensely. By the way most people complain about Syracuse weather but not having lived there, I really can't say.</p>
<p>Syracuse gets A LOT of snow!</p>
<p>OP, you have probably already made a decision, but I am going to respond to your questions. When I was at SU many moons ago, the ESF students were completely integrated with the SU students - lived in the same dorms, ate in the same cafeterias, participated in the same clubs and intamural sports, attended the same sports events, etc. I do not believe that this relationship has changed. </p>
<p>And, yes, Syracuse gets a lot of snow - more so than any large (100,000 + ) city in the US. You do, however, get used to it and you can actually have a lot of fun in the snow. There was a thread on CC a few months ago regarding "traying" and it brought back some good memories of that activity on the hills of SU, especially the hill in front of Crouse College.</p>
<p>Good luck and let us know what your final choice was.</p>
<p>We took the ESF tour in April and some things have changed.</p>
<p>ESF is currently building their own dorm which will only be large enough for their freshman. Apparently in recent years, ESF freshman were limited to only certain dorms at SU, and they were not very convenient to campus.</p>
<p>The tour guide said virtually all ESF students elect to live off campus after freshman year, although they are permitted to live in the SU dorms all 4 years.</p>
<p>Also, ESF has instituted limits to which classes an ESF student can take at SU. An example they gave was that ESF students could not take Spanish classes at SU, unless they were approved through a special process of justification (which sounded anything but automatic). They didn’t say it, but I assume this is a SUNY budget issue.</p>
<p>The tour guide did say though that ESF students can participate in all the clubs, organizations, and activities at SU (other than D1 varsity sports).</p>
<p>The new dorm at SUNY ESF (Centennial Hall) will not be restricted to only freshman it also has some rooms for upperclassmen. 452 rooms so all freshman will have a room and upperclassmen can live in the apartment style rooms. [SUNY-ESF:</a> Centennial Hall](<a href=“http://www.esf.edu/welcome/campus/centennial.htm]SUNY-ESF:”>http://www.esf.edu/welcome/campus/centennial.htm)</p>