<p>Alright I think I'm going to move on to one of those "LIEK HAI GAIZ HERE IZ MAH STATS" "LIEK OMG U ONLY GOT 16000 ON UR SAT U GOT NO CHANCE EVEN THO I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT UR QUALIFYED" threads. This thread has clearly run it's course.</p>
<p>Have fun guys.</p>
<p>oh mann now i have to delete all my stupid posts because people are complaining and i don't want to get banned.....</p>
<p>You won't get banned. A warning at the most, I think I have one still sitting in my inbox and I have yet to open it. :S</p>
<p>Affirmative action is still legal even though I do not support it. Only some affirmative action laws were invalidated, not all of them.</p>
<p>Well, this does not affect Michigan at all...</p>
<p>Here in Detroit, we have:</p>
<p>Martin Luther King Jr. Public High school</p>
<p>99.9% black (i think there is one white and one hispanic that go there, out of 3500)</p>
<p>Hugo Chavez High School</p>
<p>99.9% Hispanic</p>
<p>Bloomfield Hills High School</p>
<p>99% White.</p>
<p>I don't even know why the court NEEDED to make the decision...</p>
<p>private schools still factor race in admissions.</p>
<p>Haven't read the posts just in case there's some sort of battle going on...I don't want to argue about this.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think this is great. Kids should go to school according to where they live...end of story as far as I'm concerned. I grew up in a rural area, and that's how it is for the kids in my immediate area. </p>
<p>If we had been forced to "diversify" our schools in the surrounding districts (I went to the biggest/main school because I live just inside that line) my school would have lost a ton of its kids (minorities) to three sub par, tiny schools that are all over 90% white...sacrificing someone's education just to play a numbers game is ridiculous (not saying that ours was amazing or anything, but it was definitely better than than the others). That's true for my area, anyway...I know it's not for every other, but it's what I know.</p>
<p>lilybbloom, it's called socio-economic Affirmative Action. Affirmative Action based on one's environment, resources and income level. I'd gladly allow a poor "inner-city" kid (I don't care what race they are) take my place at any University!</p>
<p>There have been way too many AA debates on this board.</p>
<p>^ Agree helps my comment that arguing here is not going to accomplish anything. We're all intelligent men and women here, no one's going to change anyone else's opinion.</p>
<p>medha, you don't seem to realize that a <em>huge</em> percentage of poor inner-city kids are minorities. the plans put forth by the two states (which the S.C. just struck down), besides being voluntary, were meant to give these kids a chance to attend schools outside their poor, urban environment and interact with kids from other races. I understand that the plans were impractical and needed some logistical work in terms of not forcing people to make 3 hour commutes to school, but the objective of the plans was sound.</p>
<p>too many people just don't understand the history of race in this country.</p>
<p>it also perturbs me to see first or second generation Asian-Americans on this board, most of whom have had every opportunity available to them, arguing against affirmative action. many of them think that because their parents were able to make it in this country without any assistance, that other minorities should be able to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, too. But those statements are completely ignorant, since they aren't taking into account the history of racism in this country and the legacy left by slavery on black culture. I would suggest taking a class on American cities in the 20th century. Learn about white flight, federal housing policies and institutionalized racism before you talk about people being lazy or not wanting to rise above themselves.</p>
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<p>That reminds me...</p>
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medha, you don't seem to realize that a <em>huge</em> percentage of poor inner-city kids are minorities. the plans put forth by the two states (which the S.C. just struck down), besides being voluntary, were meant to give these kids a chance to attend schools outside their poor, urban environment and interact with kids from other races. I understand that the plans were impractical and needed some logistical work in terms of not forcing people to make 3 hour commutes to school, but the objective of the plans was sound.</p>
<p>too many people just don't understand the history of race in this country.
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<p>lilybbloom, if it's reasonable to offer minorities Affirmative Action just because a large percentage of those in poverty are the so called URMs, then is very reasonable to tax very Asian (more specifically Indians) at punitive rates because their median incomes are higher than that of the rest of the country. It's also very reasonable to arrest muslims, those from communist countries, the irish, church goers* and those from third world countries because terrorists usually come these groups.</p>
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<p>I don't mean to offend any of the groups I listed above!</p>
<p>lilybbloom, Slavery has been illegal for more than a century, African Americans have achieved civil rights decades ago.</p>
<p>I suggest you take a class in US History. Asian Americans were discriminated for many centuries too, Chinese migrant workers were taxed punitively in California (during the Gold Rush years). Well then Chinese Americans should get AA too! There are way too many hate attacks against us Indians oh and not to mention millions of Indians were sold off into slavery by the British, so I want AA too!</p>
<p>The field is not yet "level". The only way to make it so would be allow those WITHOUT opportunities and resources (as you say) to attend college, not stereotype greatly and consider an entire race disadvantaged.</p>
<p>hey lilybbloom, sounds like you believe yourself to be much more ethical, moral, godly, impressive, appropriate, and in general a superior human being to whites and asians, eh? i suggest you take a "reality" class and realize that today is the 21st century, and that the problem with minority poverty is MUCH more than the naive thought that it's simply racism and l legacy of slavery. think about why black kids are failing out of schools. is it because white people are stealing their lunch money or creating neo black codes that don't allow them to learn to read? or perhaps it's a result of a black culture that looks down upon "acting white" and celebrates the ghetto attitude? i am not naive enough to claim that culture is the only thing to blame, but you would be naive enough to claim that racism is all that there is</p>
<p>also, be careful with the "hey the principle is sound only logistics is a bit problematic". if i take money from some rich people and distribute it to the poor, well, the principle would be sound but would it really be good for society in general? is this a capitalist society or a communist society, after all?</p>
<p>Oh lilybbloom I am a indeed First Generation Asian American but none of the resources were provided for me. I went out and seeked them myself. I didn't even know what an "AP" Class was. To be honest I had to look up the word "perturb".</p>
<p>LOL at the video aristotle!</p>
<p>I agree with firefox, a black friend of mine (reasonable smart) tells me he's constantly referred to as an "Oreo" in school!</p>
<p>Heh, I was called an oreo by my black peers because I was in honors/AP classes/social circle. As a matter of fact, I don't think I was liked very much. =(</p>
<p>My black friends were usually either Carribiean descent (such as myself) or African immigrints.</p>
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<p>Firefox is...black? With his anti-affirmative action stance and everyone calling him a racist, I'd never have thought as much.</p>
<p>Read it thorougly aristotle. I agree with firefox (about the self imposed glass ceiling of African Americans), a black of mine tells me he's constantly referred to as an "Oreo" in school!</p>
<p>I love the internet, where blacks and hispanics can be presumed to be white supremacists for anti-affirmative action and anti-illegal immigration views.</p>