<p>I think dawgie knows what information systems is, he just thinks its better off to major in CS.</p>
<p>I’m confused because what you are saying is completely inaccurate. Most people don’t obtain that worthless easy certification. Now the CFA on the other hand (CFA level II candidate myself) is where it’s at.</p>
<p>To your question on why they hire MIS students. Maybe because they need IT auditors? I still stand by it. MIS sucks compared to CS. Just a watered down version.</p>
<p>I have to disagree with Dawgie on this one. If your intention is a career strictly in the IT of business (meaning, at most, CIO or CTO), a high quality MIS program will likely be superior to a CS degree. If you are interested in any other technology and/or business career opportunities, CS will likely be better in all cases. So I can partially agree, in that overall CS is better. But if someone’s career goals do not extend beyond IT, a high quality MIS program can give an advantage over CS.</p>
<p>Doesn’t look like disagreement to me.</p>
<p>@JHB619: I dont think Dawgie knows and understands information systems as much as I do. </p>
<p>@Dawgie: have you taken or passed CISA? How do you know its worthless? Trust me you will say information systems sucks forever because you do not understand information systems at all.</p>
<p>What about other recruiters in my campus like Accenture, Archer Daniels Midland, PointBridge, Whirlpool, Protiviti, Mead Johnson, Infosys, IBM, Hitachi, Cummins, etc? Many of my friends work as a consultant like technology consulting. They help companies integrate their IT systems within an organization. Many of my friends also work as a developer.</p>
<p>This is one area from Accenture: Consulting: Focus on business consulting, process design work and the application of technologies to business</p>
<p>So you think it is ok for CS graduates to work as a technology consultant but not MIS graduates? The reason I ask you this is that many people do not seem weird if many CS graduates work in technology consulting but not the other way around. </p>
<p>Dawgie, I think you only see MIS from a technology perspective. You dont see MIS from the business and technology perspectives. </p>
<p>What if someone says CFA is worthless than CPA? I am studying CPA now. I already passed two of them. </p>
<p>@Serious101: I agree with you.</p>
<p>"What if someone says CFA is worthless than CPA? I am studying CPA now. I already passed two of them. "</p>
<p>That statement would have no merit, considering I dominated the CPA and the CFA is x10 harder.</p>
<p>Yea what about those technology consulting positions? I wasn’t talking about them. CS majors can do those jobs too. Are you getting a little off topic here? I said the MIS major is inferior than the CS major and if you agree with Serious, then why are you still talking to me?</p>
<p>“That statement would have no merit, considering I dominated the CPA and the CFA is x10 harder.”</p>
<p>You say that that the statement would have no merit but some of my friends say that the CFA is easier than the CPA. See? I have respect for both of them. After passing my CPA, I am planning to take the CFA in the future. I know they are important because I have clues for both of them.</p>
<p>What about your statement here “Most people don’t obtain that worthless easy certification. Now the CFA on the other hand (CFA level II candidate myself) is where it’s at.” EASY? What’s your merit here? You think the CFA is better than the CISA? So you say that if someone does not pass the CISA, he or she is stupid? Why don’t you take it first?</p>
<p>One of my friends is a partner in an accounting firm. She passed the exam but she did not think the exam was easy. How come you say it’s easy if you haven’t taken the exam yet? Why would she even take the exam if you think the CISA is worthless? For fun? I don’t think so. My friend is a CPA. She works long hours.</p>
<p>“Yea what about those technology consulting positions? I wasn’t talking about them. CS majors can do those jobs too. Are you getting a little off topic here? I said the MIS major is inferior than the CS major and if you agree with Serious, then why are you still talking to me?”</p>
<p>Serious101 wrote “I have to disagree with Dawgie on this one. If your intention is a career strictly in the IT of business (meaning, at most, CIO or CTO), a high quality MIS program will likely be superior to a CS degree.” See? What I am trying to say here, everything depends on the paths of MIS students want to pursue! So you cannot say MIS major is inferior than the CS major if you don’t have a clue about information systems at all.</p>
<p>Also, a lot of my classmates have engineering and CS backgrounds for their undergraduate. If they don’t see information systems is important, why would they even take information systems for their Master? Many of them want to see the connection between business and technology.</p>
<p>The problem is you have just omitted a major part of what he said. “CS will likely be better in all cases. So I can partially agree, in that overall CS is better”. So if you agree with him, then yes you agree with me. </p>
<p>Listen you don’t have any friends. Your friends are partners? (30-40) years older than you, or people that are 4 years out of school (Just about minimum for most charterholders consider they pass all on first try, not to mention 4 year work experience requirement) when you were born in 86? Give it up, I have merit in what I say vs. your fabricated excerpts from your “friends”. Also no, it doesn’t depend on what path you want to pursue. You are looking at what is an overall better major (Hence me saying CS > MIS). The clear answer would be CS. A CS major can get any worthy job a MIS major can get, and in most cases better jobs.</p>
<p>Last point, I own you.</p>
<p>“The problem is you have just omitted a major part of what he said. “CS will likely be better in all cases. So I can partially agree, in that overall CS is better”. So if you agree with him, then yes you agree with me.”</p>
<p>I agree for the first sentence. Once again, it all depends on the paths of MIS students (I have to disagree with Dawgie on this one. If your intention is a career strictly in the IT of business (meaning, at most, CIO or CTO), a high quality MIS program will likely be superior to a CS degree)</p>
<p>Also, you do not own me. </p>
<p>See you always made bad assumptions. I have friends trust me. I have more than 600 friends on my Facebook. I did two internships in accounting firms before. So, of course I have friends work as partners. I can’t make friends with them? lol… I can’t network with them? lol… Have you ever heard it’s not what you know but who you know? </p>
<p>The reason why I engaged in this discussion is because I have clues about information systems not like you. I have learned a lot from other people, no matter what their ages are. I was not born in 86, that’s for Interstate-86. Once again, you made a bad assumption. </p>
<p>Last point, you will always defend CS>MIS because you have no clues about information systems at all. Thus, I see no point in talking to you anymore.</p>
<p>Ciao!</p>
<p>^hahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha, I have never laughed this hard by what a poster on here said until now.</p>
<p>You get picked on a lot in school don’t you?</p>
<p>You are talking about executive level positions. At that point, your degree will be irrelevant. CS > MIS. Overall it is a better degree and can do EVERYTHING an MIS major can do and much more. I don’t need to know about information systems to understand that. In fact, it isn’t even pertinent to this debate. The debate is CS > MIS, not whether information systems are important. Also that certification is a joke compared to the CFA. Hilarious comparing the CFA to some no name certification.</p>
<p>“See you always made bad assumptions. I have friends trust me. I have more than 600 friends on my Facebook.”</p>
<p>Switch jobs to being a comedian please.</p>
<p>Your profile:
Date of Birth
February 23, 1986 (25)
My assumptions are right and once again. Me > YOU and CS > MIS.</p>
<p>I wonder which one dawgie prefers more. Accounting or Finance? CPA or CFA? Football or basketball? Pizza or Chinese? Brooklyn Decker or Marisa Miller?</p>
<p>Life or death? Being an A-Hole or being a dick? Being a ■■■■■ or being a super ■■■■■?Whisteblower or himself?</p>
<p>The problem is, many of these IT jobs require a CS degree.</p>
<p>I am a 3rd year in college too, and I can’t decide to choose between computer science and accounting degree. Currently, I am double majoring in it. Am I wasting my time? Some people told me that I only could do one job at a time, and I might have wasted my time by doing both. I got A on almost all the classes on both majors so far. How can I find out more about which major I would like better or more suitable? Any suggestions?</p>