Looking for advice for my D.
Syracuse double major (Whitman + Newhouse) - 28k scholarship - invited to apply for honors - highest cost among the three even after the scholarship
Indiana (Kelley) - direct admit to business with honors - 11k scholarship
Cal Poly SLO (Orfalea) - business - lowest cost, best weather
Mainly looking for advice w.r.t opportunities at the school (internship, research, leadership) as well as placements after graduation.
Whitman + Newhouse is a powerhouse program. Was he invited to apply to Honors, or was he invited into the Honors program? The Honors program will take that amazing program to another level, as they have specific staff to help find research and internship opportunities. If you can afford Syracuse, I’d suggest very close consideration and a campus visit if possible.
@Amkngk Thank you! she was invited to apply for honors (we still have a week to finish the application). We did visit the SU campus, loved the school and possibly can afford with some budget balancing act (though cost increases over 4 years scare us a bit). Its not clear to us if the cost difference (almost 15k per year) between SLO and Syracuse is worth spending before she commits hence the question.
@kidded So sorry I misgendered your D. $15k a year is a lot and I don’t really know anything about SLO. How weather-sensitive is your D? Kids make it through Syracuse winters just fine, but it is gray and cloudy much of the year. That can be worse for some kids than the snow.
I am a Newhouse + Whitman alum and love SU. We did choose to pay (a lot) more for our D to attend SU than it would have cost to send her to her #3 school (#2 was about the same). However, we had the money saved. I wouldn’t have gone into debt to send her.
@amkngk as an alum, will you be able to shed some light on internship opportunities as well as placements? Are there better opportunities from Newhouse side or Whitman or equal?
@kidded I graduated a million years ago, so I can’t really speak to that. I know that both schools have incredible alumni networks. Whitman is ten times stronger now than it was when I was there. I would guess they are equal, and there are probably even more opportunities as a dual major. Newhouse has an edge for on-campus experience opportunities I think, because of things like Citrus TV, the Daily Orange, etc. those organizations have their own alumni network, too. Unlike at most other schools, if you’re looking for a newspaper job you’ll find Newhouse alum who also worked for the Daily Orange and understand what that means. Whitman is a strong business school with its own connections, but Newhouse is #1 in the country for what it does and ( more importantly) has been for the last 30 years.
Direct admit to IU Kelley, one of the nation’s top undergraduate business schools, is impressive and deserves serious consideration.
It’s going to be hard to beat Orfalea for both the price and starting salary, especially if she wants to return to CA. Based on the 2016-2017 data (they’re tabulating 17-18 data right now, so it’s unavailable), the median salaries are are $60k or more for accounting (60), finance (60), information systems (65), and industrial technology and packaging (64). Econ (40) and management (50) lag a bit. Eighty percent of students had jobs before graduation.
Whitman has similar numbers, a little higher for finance (67), a little lower for supply chain management (58; analogous to what CP calls industrial technology) and management (45). These numbers are 2017-2018 numbers, so not exactly apples to apples.
Kelly is similar, except econ and management are closer to the rest of their salaries.
https://careerservices.calpoly.edu/gsr-tableau
https://whitman.syr.edu/employers/placement-statistics.aspx
https://kelley.iu.edu/recruiters-companies/undergrad/statistics/salary-statistics/index.cshtml
@eyemgh thank you for the stats. This is very useful.
Will the annual COA after applying scholarships be about:
Cal Poly = $25,000 ?
IU-Kelley =$36,000 ?
Syracuse about $42,000 ?
All three are great schools, but mostly regional; their degrees won’t travel all that well.
For example, SLO will have naturally have more connections out west, while 'Cuse would be strong in the NE, particularly NYS.
So the key question is, where would she like end up? If California, SLO is a no-brainer.
@Publisher costs based on our analysis shows (first year):
Cal Poly is $28000
IU-Kelly is $40000
and Syracuse $46000
I think annual increases would Syracuse at 50k in possibly 3rd and 4th year. I heard it may take 5-6 years to complete at some public schools which might make cost comparison difficult (depends on the student) but all three seem to have similar 4 year graduation rates based on published data.
Also be sure she really wants four years of an upstate NY winter. Flights in and out of Syracuse are often cancelled. Cornell kids bus up to fly out of Syracuse, and there are not many directly flights out of Syracuse, its not a big airport.
The Finger Lakes are really nice, lots of waterfalls, hiking, and sailing. Can she bring a car to Syracuse? Locals will have cars and she will make friends with locals, so she can get out and see the region. Ithaca is a fun day trip, see Cornell Ice cream bar. They are about 60 miles apart, Cornell and Syracuse. Farmers markets are phenomenal in upstate NY. Cheese, applies, cider etc.