<p>I'm planning on sending scientific papers I've written to colleges (still not sure though). I'm going to send 3: one was Siemens regional finalist last year, one has been submitted for publication, and one is Siemens semi this year (so they're all legitamite, good papers).</p>
<p>The problem is this: two of them (the siemens ones), are team projects. On the title page, should I list both authors or just me? They are with different partners, and one of them is also applying EA to the same school as me. Or should I not even have a title page and just put the title of the paper at the top of the first page, or have a title page but no authors? Thanks.</p>
<p>Of course you list both partners. Otherwise, you're falsely indicating that you wrote the papers by yourself. I suggest also including information about exactly what you contributed to the project.</p>
<p>As I said, honestly tell exactly what your contribution to the project was. "Wrote most of the paper" is not as specific as would be "Totally in charge of creating the research design and doing the experiments. Wrote all sections of the paper except the discussion section."</p>
<p>Should I include both names? The other kid that's doing EA isn't sending the paper, I don't think (other supplemental materials, he's sending), so I don't want to add to his application, and we will likely be looked at at aruond the same time since we go to the same school. Could I just leave all names off and only have the title on the title page, and then in the letter say "Team project in which I did ..." like that?</p>
<p>Also, on the second one, I did the whole project. My partner did exactly nothing (The project was very heavy on math and computer programming, and he had never done computer programming before, and wasn't that good at math). I don't want to be so blatant that they might think i'm just trying to shaft my partner and take all the credit, but I don't want to not get my due credit. What do I do?</p>
<p>dude, write all the names and send them in without any explanations... sure you're worried about credit or what not, but I'm sure they'll be impressed enough with it</p>
<p>You need to put both names. Isn't that a form of plagarizing? Taking credit for work that's not yours? And if it was a team, it wasn't all yours (even if it was mostly yours). You should include your specific duties in writing it. :p</p>
<p>Well I would definitely not say it's my own. I would say in a letter that I'll include anyway to make sure they know what all should be in the file, "Included is a paper on a team project I did titled _________. My role was etc. etc.</p>
<p>Why not just a send a copy of the letter from the siemens regional and the abstract of your paper. I dont think an admissions officer would get through several pages of your research paper - in my op.</p>
<p>Also, for the semi, just send the abstract.</p>
<p>what do you mean letter from the siemens regional?</p>
<p>And I asked about sending supplemental stuff. They said they pass it on to a department and the dept. gives a review, so I think I'll send it in.</p>
<p>actually harvard does want to see the full paper, so they can decide whether it is a good paper for themselves rather than let some competition review board decide it for them.</p>
<p>So list the other author even though he's not sending the paper? I don't want to add to his application with stuff I sent in...</p>
<p>I could just have the title on the page and say in a letter that it was a team project, without naming names.</p>
<p>EDIT: Also, I have a paper I submitted for publication. The project is entirely mine (research at RSI). However, due to convention, I am not listed as the first author (it requires alphabetical). Should I send it in EXACTlY as we sent it to the journal or change the uathors?</p>
<p>im just curious...how is it possible to get enough data for a paper in 6 wks, even if its RSI? I'm assuming most people don't keep on working at the lab , since they are from all over the world.</p>
<p>Actually, its only about 4 weeks of actual project work. The first week is just classes and you only meet your mentor the first friday, start work following monday. Last week is paper writing and presentations. </p>
<p>And it's very amazing how much can get done when that's all you have to do. Keep in mind that you work 40 hours per week on your project. That's more than you probably get of school and homework combined.</p>
<p>Also, projects can be done that fast. I've done Siemens twice and ISEF once, and all 3 times, my projects were done in about 6 weeks, and that's during school times too.</p>
<p>No, they don't. You start your own project. One of the most amazing things about RSI is how much work gets done. I didn't realize how, but I did do an unmentored (largely) project in 4 weeks and was a Siemens Westinghouse Regional finalist or it. That was in pure bio, where things always take longer, and when school was going on. At RSI I had almost 5 weeks, 40 hours a week (and even more if you want), and it was computational biology. Of course I could finish. I could have had a much better project if my mentor didn't go to a conference for 1 week and then get poison oak the next. </p>
<p>And no one gets published right after RSI (maybe some math kids do actually). It takes A LOT of work after.</p>